Non-rev, stby, and jump-seat
Sep 16, 2001 | 4:49 pm
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Non-rev, stby, and jump-seat
Just a thought...
After the difficult time I had in ATL (eventually forgoing my flight), I wonder how the new security system will deal with non-revs on standby status, Crewmembers attempting to go standby, etc.
It seems to me that a system that requires a current-day ticket/boarding pass is fine in theory, but impactical to allow these classes of travel. If we disallow all crewmembers/non-rev applicable folks beyond security without a ticket....then the industry loses a huge benefit.
On te other hand, if we do let these folks beyond security, then how do we vet them?
After the difficult time I had in ATL (eventually forgoing my flight), I wonder how the new security system will deal with non-revs on standby status, Crewmembers attempting to go standby, etc.
It seems to me that a system that requires a current-day ticket/boarding pass is fine in theory, but impactical to allow these classes of travel. If we disallow all crewmembers/non-rev applicable folks beyond security without a ticket....then the industry loses a huge benefit.
On te other hand, if we do let these folks beyond security, then how do we vet them?
Sep 16, 2001 | 7:06 pm
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For the time being at least, most carriers have changed to only allow their own pilots to jump-seat - they will not carry other carriers' pilots that way. The FAA has also suspended their own OMC program for ATC. Several FAA employees I know were/are stuck in various locations after having flown there using the cockpit jump-seat. They now most return as a regular passenger seated in the cabin. I also ran into a UA pilot who had planned to jump-seat on Friday, the captain made her sit in the back.
Sep 16, 2001 | 7:48 pm
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Realized I didn't really answer your question. Jumpseaters must now list for the flight with their company and receive a boarding pass or listing receipt in order to pass through security.
Sep 17, 2001 | 3:16 am
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The airline ID doesn't allow you to bypass security, just get through it to the gate area. By limiting the number of people screened by security, the idea is more attention will be paid to those going through. Anyone caught with a phoney ID is in big trouble these days, and all it does is get them in the gate area. It would be a different issue if it allowed them to bypass security.
You know, like all the ramp workers.
You know, like all the ramp workers.
Sep 17, 2001 | 7:39 am
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Passengers without a boarding pass are not allowed to go thru security in Germany or France.
Stand-by pax become a boarding pass with no seat allocation and "Stand by" on it.
Note that the terrorists did have a boarding pass...
Stand-by pax become a boarding pass with no seat allocation and "Stand by" on it.
Note that the terrorists did have a boarding pass...