yyz-del transpacific or transatlantic?
Sep 21, 2003 | 4:27 pm
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yyz-del transpacific or transatlantic?
so am i correct in understanding, having read the posts on this new route, that Ac have definitively ruled this to be transpacific? how disappointing, how boring, how more of the same...groan..
Sep 21, 2003 | 5:12 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Empress:
As far as I know, YYZ/DEL is designated as Transpac.</font>
As far as I know, YYZ/DEL is designated as Transpac.</font>
Sep 21, 2003 | 7:05 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by airbust:
If it is trans pacific, can you fly YYZ to BKK (Asia1) via DEL for 100K in bus class.</font>
If it is trans pacific, can you fly YYZ to BKK (Asia1) via DEL for 100K in bus class.</font>
Over mileage. You would also have to look at a *A reward as the 100K for business is AC only. The *A reward in bus class is 185K to the Indian Sub continent found here:
http://makeashorterlink.com/?J11A227F5
Sep 22, 2003 | 6:23 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by AC*SE:
Well, to be really picky (and isn't that why we keep lawyers around?
) it's transarc, isn't it?
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Well, to be really picky (and isn't that why we keep lawyers around?
) it's transarc, isn't it?</font>
I guess at this point it depends on your definition of "Transatlantic".
One view is that a transatlantic flight is one that crosses 30W longitude, which this flight indeed does.
Another is that a transatlantic flight is one that utilizes an oceanic track assigned by Gander/Shanwick control, which this flight will not.
I tend to subscribe to the latter view and hence would agree with you that the flight is "transpolar" or "transarctic" if you prefer.
Sep 22, 2003 | 8:40 pm
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How can it make it non-stop the run is 7230 miles and the range of the plane is 7350, with hot temperatures in DEL will it be allowed max take off weight? Is this flight load limited? I tried looking back in notes as I thought I read about this before. The flight has 15 hrs time. Will this be AC longest nonstop run?
YYZ-NRT was 6400 yyz-HKG is 7900 but load limited I assume
SYD-YVR would be shorter 7760
YYZ-NRT was 6400 yyz-HKG is 7900 but load limited I assume
SYD-YVR would be shorter 7760
Sep 22, 2003 | 9:42 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by why fly:
How can it make it non-stop the run is 7230 miles and the range of the plane is 7350</font>
How can it make it non-stop the run is 7230 miles and the range of the plane is 7350</font>
Sep 22, 2003 | 9:55 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by why fly:
How can it make it non-stop the run is 7230 miles and the range of the plane is 7350, with hot temperatures in DEL will it be allowed max take off weight? Is this flight load limited? I tried looking back in notes as I thought I read about this before. The flight has 15 hrs time. Will this be AC longest nonstop run?
YYZ-NRT was 6400 yyz-HKG is 7900 but load limited I assume
SYD-YVR would be shorter 7760 </font>
How can it make it non-stop the run is 7230 miles and the range of the plane is 7350, with hot temperatures in DEL will it be allowed max take off weight? Is this flight load limited? I tried looking back in notes as I thought I read about this before. The flight has 15 hrs time. Will this be AC longest nonstop run?
YYZ-NRT was 6400 yyz-HKG is 7900 but load limited I assume
SYD-YVR would be shorter 7760 </font>
HKG-YYZ is the longest at approximately 7100 nautical miles.
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Sep 23, 2003 | 1:57 am
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Does anyone know why AC designaged this flight to be transpacific, rather than transatlantic, or even a transpolar route (which would for the purposes of award of RTW travel) be considered either one or the other.
I am planning to fly using a RTW ticket (though India) next spring. I was planning to use AC to India, via Toronto (if this had been designated transatlantic), and Singapore Airlines via the Pacific. I am now wondering whether I use AC as a transpacific route, and Singapore from Delhi to London, England, via Singapore, as a transatlantic route (and continue on to Canada on AC)?
I am planning to fly using a RTW ticket (though India) next spring. I was planning to use AC to India, via Toronto (if this had been designated transatlantic), and Singapore Airlines via the Pacific. I am now wondering whether I use AC as a transpacific route, and Singapore from Delhi to London, England, via Singapore, as a transatlantic route (and continue on to Canada on AC)?
Sep 23, 2003 | 3:23 am
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It should be an AT routing - as defined by IATA Global Indicators. An Atlantic routing is flights between IATA Area 1 and IATA Area 2, without crossing Area 3. A Pacific routing is between IATA Area 1 and IATA Area 3 without crossing Area 2. As India is in 2 and Canada is in 1, unless AC plan to rewrite IATA rules and geography, I can't see how they can even contemplate it being a Pacific routing.