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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 10:38 am
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Taxes taxes taxes....when do they stop.!.

I have just redeemed a reward ticket for YVR-LHR

The taxes totaled $141.00 cdn...plus I still have to pay the 15$ departure tax.

Making the total 156 $ for Reward ticket...madness.!
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 11:00 am
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Im curious to know who are getting what..

Fed gov
gas tax
nav can
UK govt etc...
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 11:03 am
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Hmm,

I claimed a pair of reward tickets from YYZ to PVG (Shanghai) earlier in the year, just before the departure tax kicked-in. The grand total for the 2 tickets was less than
$25!

What are the taxes like on other routes?

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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 11:04 am
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Ticket says...

CA 24.00
XT 118.10

Total 142.10
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 11:07 am
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If your award ticket is in J/D class, the biggest hit you get if from the UK government which charges you for Immigration/Customs at a variable rate, lower for Y, higher for J, F and R. I believe you are being charged about 40 [XT $118] for the privilege of using that pink Fast Track card. On award tickets AC only levies the various airport and government fees, not anything else, so ease up on them. The Brits still have a regressive taxation system, believing anyone who can afford to fly up front, can afford to pay more than the rabble in back.

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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 11:11 am
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The Brits still have a regressive taxation system, believing anyone who can afford to fly up front, can afford to pay more than the rabble in back.</font>
You do mean PROGRESSIVE as in those who can afford to pay more do. "Regressive" taxes are like U.S. social security tax - hits you at a non-deductible flat rate until you reach a certain limit where you don't pay anymore.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Shareholder:
The Brits still have a regressive taxation system, believing anyone who can afford to fly up front, can afford to pay more than the rabble in back.

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Thank goodness Im rabble and only get up front on an upgrade

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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 11:34 am
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See...this make no sense to me...

I just checked my last RTW ticket...

total taxes were 252 AUD so thats 215 CDN..
and I made 7 flights into 7 countries...

Including the UK...

I guess we will never really understand this...
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 11:48 am
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I stand corrected. Flat taxes are regressive, scaled taxes are progressive.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Shareholder:
Flat taxes are regressive,</font>
Actually, they're not. They're neutral or at least fair? The U.S. Social Security tax I cited above is (or was) regressive because someone like Michael Eisner who made $173 million give or take 10 a few years ago paid the same social security tax as someone making $60,000 that year.

The U.K. equivalent would be the community charge (better known as poll tax) which is a fixed charge and levied on people no matter what their income and wealth is. There's no property tax so Richard Branson living in his multi-million pound mansion pays the same as a waitperson living in a dingey rental flat (the landlord would pay the same community charge no matter how much property he owned).

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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by terenz:
Actually, they're not. They're neutral or at least fair?</font>
Without wanting to re-ignite the political debates that break-out on FT, I would beg to differ. Flat taxes are regressive - whether or not they are "fair" I leave to individual judgement.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Ferrari:
Ticket says...

CA 24.00
XT 118.10

Total 142.10
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XT=Combined Taxes. See breakdown in Fare Calculation Area according to my little insert which I use a decoder. Give Aeroplan a call they will be glad to break out the information.
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 2:17 pm
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Hi Ferrari,
Here is the fare breakdown if your doing direct YVR-LHR-YVR,
24.00 cdn (Collenette tax) and 40.00 pounds (J,D,C class) or 20.00 pounds (W and all economy classes)


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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 2:27 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Aeroplan Superelite Agent:
40.00 pounds </font>
There's a few more taxes in there.

GBP 40 = USD 62.6 = CAD 98

Another of around CAD 20 (BAA passenger charge for LHR?)



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ASA.

Thanks...40 quid to get into Britain...hardly seems worth.!

I hope my 58K is safe for the return.. ...

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