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Old May 17, 2002 | 2:47 pm
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when did AC drop the Sat stay req?

I was pricing out fares YYC-SFO and noticed that you can get a low-ish fare on AC/UA that doesn't have a Sat stay requirement (it does have a two-day min stay, but that's fine for business).

When did this happen? I noticed that it's true for LAX as well...
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Old May 17, 2002 | 2:51 pm
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They have these once in a while... last time they had it for YVR-BOS under $500. It's all about competition, AS and AC were most likely matching each other in this case.
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Old May 17, 2002 | 2:56 pm
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There are a gazillion routes like this, with similar rules. In some cases, the cheapest Q fare has (for practical purposes) exactly the same rules as the Y fare -- i.e. available one-way, no advance purchase, etc.

That's why the claim that upgrade rules were "stingy-fied" because people buying last minute fares were paying top dollar and not able to upgrade, is bogus. Fact is, on many routes, particularly to the US, the "last minute fares" are the cheapest, or close to.
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Old May 17, 2002 | 2:57 pm
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These fares have been around for a while on flights to the US. They are competitive with fares offered by US carriers.

What's even better is on selected routes on which AC competes with America West - very low (N class) fares available without a Sat. stay required and often with little advance booking required - I hope like crazy that America West's efforts to get rid of the Sat night stay requirement works.

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Old May 17, 2002 | 10:04 pm
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bogus is right.

Domestic fares, Saturday night stay req'd.
US fares, No Saturday night stay.

Domestic fares, 50% q-miles
US fares, 100% q-miles

Domestic fares, no standby on L/Q fares
US fares, standby permitted on L/Q fares

Go ahead, someone try and argue that lack of competition in Canada isn't a root cause of us getting the shaft!

And Air Canada "competing" against itself with Tango, Jazz, Zip, Nip and Rip? Give me a break.
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Old May 17, 2002 | 10:17 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">I hope like crazy that America West's efforts to get rid of the Sat night stay requirement works.</font>
It will last precisely as long as America West does. (Although it could end sooner, if they are forced to retreat).

Also see www.zyworld.com/brancatelli/branc041802.htm (I'm sure Brancatelli had another column on America West more recently, but I can't find it now).

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Old May 18, 2002 | 3:20 pm
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Andrew: Excellent article by Brancatelli - thanks for the reference.
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Old May 18, 2002 | 6:35 pm
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Thanks Andrew Webber, I've always wondered what the AC model was and reading the article leaves little doubt.
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Old May 18, 2002 | 8:22 pm
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My pleasure! I always find Brancatelli an interesting read. His weekly emails give a concise summary of the articles and pointers to his site.

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