A Poll -- how often do you fly full-fare / what perentage of your trips are full fare?
Nov 16, 1998, 10:48 am
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A Poll -- how often do you fly full-fare / what perentage of your trips are full fare?
I would be interested to hear what kind of flying habits are common here -- how often you fly full fare, and what percentage of your flights are full fare? I have a feeling that the population here will be somewhat higher than average, but still curious...
Nov 16, 1998, 10:54 am
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since having heard your president's thinking about definition I am not sure about the definition of "full fare" anymore.
Myself: 0% of the old-fashioned-full-fare, but often "full-fare-" specials (f.e. visit-usa-coupons, fixed-round-the-world-prices, etc.).
Overall: no idea.
Myself: 0% of the old-fashioned-full-fare, but often "full-fare-" specials (f.e. visit-usa-coupons, fixed-round-the-world-prices, etc.).
Overall: no idea.
Nov 16, 1998, 11:42 am
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Location: London,UK. Ok, about 100 miles from London really, but how many Americans know where Market Harborough is?
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100% Fully-Flex Full Fare [F,J,C or S] for business (which is 95% of travel), when for pleasure the most discounted fare available.
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Nov 16, 1998, 11:47 am
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when you reach my wise age you will have learned that business is (should be) pleasure (too) and .... I pay all my flight tickets directly (or indirectly when my company pays) MYSELF.
Nov 16, 1998, 12:17 pm
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On business, I fly full fare approximately every 3 weeks -- for personal travel, I don't remember ever having flown full fare.
Even for business, I sometimes wonder how much money I might be able to save the company by buying tickets in advance. Even with the occasional cancellation and no refund, I think the amount saved would be substantial...
Even for business, I sometimes wonder how much money I might be able to save the company by buying tickets in advance. Even with the occasional cancellation and no refund, I think the amount saved would be substantial...
Nov 16, 1998, 12:34 pm
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Most of my trips are planned a few weeks out so my company tends to get me on reduced-fare tickets. However, I'd say that 20% of the tickets I use are full-fare.
Nov 16, 1998, 12:38 pm
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The games the airlines play with fares, clssses and dates make this a very annoying topic.
A recent trip from EWR to SFO for business - leave Thursday evening, come back Saturday evening at 9pm - full fare on CO $1,800. If I stay in SFO and have dinner with friends - fly back at 1am connect through IAH - fare drops to $350.
I'll always book the cheapeast fare that works with my needs (company policy) so I'm really at the mercy of the fare structure and availability.
Dave
A recent trip from EWR to SFO for business - leave Thursday evening, come back Saturday evening at 9pm - full fare on CO $1,800. If I stay in SFO and have dinner with friends - fly back at 1am connect through IAH - fare drops to $350.
I'll always book the cheapeast fare that works with my needs (company policy) so I'm really at the mercy of the fare structure and availability.
Dave
Nov 16, 1998, 1:59 pm
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I rarely fly full fare. Even on last minute business trips I have been able to find lower fares by choosing appropriate flights and routes. Online travel software may not be very user friendly, but it does provide a lot of information to the end user. One can save a lot of money.
On a related note, I read recently in C.N. Traveler magazine that there were a couple of lawsuits pending against the airlines, one challenging airlines cracking down against "hidden city" routing, and the other one against the high price differential between refundable and non refundable tickets.
On a related note, I read recently in C.N. Traveler magazine that there were a couple of lawsuits pending against the airlines, one challenging airlines cracking down against "hidden city" routing, and the other one against the high price differential between refundable and non refundable tickets.
Nov 16, 1998, 2:56 pm
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I'm self-employed; so I pay for my own trips. I NEVER fly full fare if I can help it. I do charge clients full Y fare when they're reimbursing me, no matter how I actually travel (This even applies when I drive to Richmond, VA) but the client knows this in advance. Regardless of my business relationships, I'd never PAY full fare. If your boss does, then I'd have to say you're a very valued employee.
Nov 16, 1998, 4:42 pm
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my employees are offered the (weekend-rate) hotel-costs and daily expenses (plus if flying back from outside Europe one addional recove day when coming back) if they apply the "Sunday-rule-fares". Most of them do - and enjoy.
I allow all employees the same standart on journeys (flight-class, hotel, meals) as they would choose in their private life - not more - not less.
I allow all employees the same standart on journeys (flight-class, hotel, meals) as they would choose in their private life - not more - not less.
Nov 16, 1998, 5:07 pm
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Philforest - depending on your occupation & the amount of advance warning you have, full-fare tickets are sometimes unavoidable, especially when you are flying somewhere remote at the drop of a hat and you need to be completely flexible once you get there.
There is nothing worse than being stranded in some dark corner of the earth and not being able to leave because of circumstances beyond your control & an inflexible ticket... resolving such a situation is often more expensive & unpleasant than paying full fare to start with.
One of my colleagues was once stuck on the same aeroplane for over 24 hours (no, he wasn't going to Australia), & spent another 18 on the same journey. According to the original schedule, he was due to leave before he had even landed... and if his ticket hadn't been flexible he would have been stuck in Calcutta until the London office sorted it out.
When flying into developing countries it is best to keep your options open...
There is nothing worse than being stranded in some dark corner of the earth and not being able to leave because of circumstances beyond your control & an inflexible ticket... resolving such a situation is often more expensive & unpleasant than paying full fare to start with.
One of my colleagues was once stuck on the same aeroplane for over 24 hours (no, he wasn't going to Australia), & spent another 18 on the same journey. According to the original schedule, he was due to leave before he had even landed... and if his ticket hadn't been flexible he would have been stuck in Calcutta until the London office sorted it out.
When flying into developing countries it is best to keep your options open...