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Old Nov 3, 1998, 1:50 am
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Star Alliance / Air New Zealand

United has been suggesting for some time that Air New Zealand will join Star Alliance in the near future. Does anyone know a rough date for this -- early next year? later?
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Old Nov 3, 1998, 3:29 am
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for sure before ANA - and ANA is scheduled for sep-1-99.

I guess/hope very early in 99 (if I would have to bet, than I would say may-1-99, in may is the StarAlliance-birthday).

I can't wait to include Ansett, Air New Zealand and ANA in my "round-the-world"-plannings.
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Old Nov 3, 1998, 10:04 pm
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I think both Air New Zealand and Ansett will be full members on Jan. 1. Does this mean that the miles flown on them after that date will count towards qualifying for Premiere status? They don't right now, sigh.
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Old Nov 4, 1998, 1:15 am
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once they become member of StarAlliance, their miles will count as StatusMiles.
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Old Nov 4, 1998, 4:27 am
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I thought I would share with you the contents of a letter I got from South African Airways at the weekend, regarding partnerships & alliances:


"Up to now our partnerships and alliances have been a case of cherry-picking, we have an excellent realationship with British Midland... However, with Lufthansa we clearly have a foot in the Star Alliance camp, and with American we're keeping close to any BA/AA developments. At this stage, anything could happen."

Tony Farmer,
Sales & Marketing Manager, SAA.


So now we know!!
MF

PS: RIP BA/AA... Alas you were not to be:-(

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Old Nov 4, 1998, 1:16 pm
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MF - I heard murmurs earlier this year that SAA were a possible target for a takeover bid ... I'm not certain if anything came of this - or whether any of the western airlines were sufficiently interested to pursue the issue.

Late last year, because of the Springboks tour, all the BA flights out of Jo'burg were full, and I ended up flying back to London in SAA economy. (I didn't get a chance to sample SAA business, which I hope was better, because by the time I tried to make a reservation the front of the plane had been sold out to well-heeled rugby fans)

The check-in agent put me in the smoking section without even asking my preference (I'm a NON-SMOKER!!), where I was seated next to a group of very drunk, very excited rugby fans from the Orange Free State who were all chain smokers. After several complaints to the flight attendants I was finally moved next to a mother with a 3-month old baby. The aeroplane was shabby, the food was mediocre at best, and the service ranged from slow to absent. Needless to say I'm not in a rush to sample SAA's service again.

If SAA want to be accepted as part of a major international airline alliance they are going to have to improve their standards enormously.
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Old Nov 5, 1998, 2:09 am
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SAA are due to be privatised next year, and the Government is looking for a new owner.

Knowing my luck BA will buy a stake! I agree their service needs a serious over-haul.

Ten years ago, I was impressed with SAA but they have fallen well behind recently. They have new 747-400's on order - maybe that will make a difference.
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