FlyerTalk Forums

FlyerTalk Forums (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/index.php)
-   Virgin America | Elevate pre 2018 (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/virgin-america-elevate-pre-2018-642/)
-   -   VX Financial data released (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/virgin-america-elevate-pre-2018/917302-vx-financial-data-released.html)

eponymous_coward Feb 4, 2009 8:59 am

Crankyflier did a full-scale spreadsheet.

Singapore_Air Feb 4, 2009 3:13 pm


Originally Posted by dordal (Post 11198890)
If anybody's curious, the raw data is here:

http://www.transtats.bts.gov/Tables....er%20Financial

Its all in spreadsheet form, and will take a while to understand

Thanks for the link - do you know how to get the route financials and load factors?

Rambuster Feb 5, 2009 1:44 pm

Looks like an unsustainable business model !

JetBlueFA Feb 6, 2009 9:33 am

Not to mention UA, AA, and B6 are going after the jugular on the transcon market now. All 3 can offset the losses on other routes, but that is something that VX can't do given their small route network.

aviators99 Feb 6, 2009 9:50 am


Originally Posted by JetBlueFA (Post 11212831)
Not to mention UA, AA, and B6 are going after the jugular on the transcon market now. All 3 can offset the losses on other routes, but that is something that VX can't do given their small route network.

I would say that AA is, but UA and B6 aren't really making much of an effort. But AA is serious.

JetBlueFA Feb 6, 2009 11:37 am


Originally Posted by aviators99 (Post 11212924)
I would say that AA is, but UA and B6 aren't really making much of an effort. But AA is serious.

Well just after VX made the announcement of BOS-SFO, LAX we started BOS-SFO again and just announced we are going to start LAX with 2 daily flights to JFK and BOS. Also it appears a fare ware is starting to develop between us and VX on these routes. I think out guys in FSC aren't taking to well to VX being in JFK and BOS.

aviators99 Feb 6, 2009 12:44 pm


Originally Posted by JetBlueFA (Post 11213576)
Well just after VX made the announcement of BOS-SFO, LAX we started BOS-SFO again and just announced we are going to start LAX with 2 daily flights to JFK and BOS. Also it appears a fare ware is starting to develop between us and VX on these routes. I think out guys in FSC aren't taking to well to VX being in JFK and BOS.

Agreed...but 2 daily flights isn't really "going after the jugular", in my opinion. AA is, though, and I guess B6 is piling on...

eponymous_coward Feb 13, 2009 1:34 pm

Crankyflier is updating his spreadsheet (linked to in my post above) with load factors for each month (perhaps we could put this in the FAQ?). He just added November numbers, which showed considerable uptake on the ex-SEA routes (from low 60's combined up to mid-70's... though you'd think Thanksgiving is a big part of that).

Anyway, it's nice that we can see this. :)


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 8:27 pm.


This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.