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roadtoyul Jul 6, 2013 2:31 am

I believe the solution to airlines making better profit start from the top of the organization working its way down. It's not a question of price. Airlines that charge more don't necessarily make more money!

skylady Jul 6, 2013 4:04 am


Originally Posted by yandosan (Post 21021376)
Flying is too cheap. It's turned American flights into cattle-class headache
excursions.
One should not in 2013 be able to fly from LA to NYC and back for $320.
That's the same price it was in 1988--I remember-- that's the first time
I made the trip.
$600 is a reasonable price for a trip across the continent, and back.
Flight attendants are upset and uncooperative, pilots too, airport staff, all underpaid. What do you expect when you pay them peanuts?
Everything else has gone up in price (gas quadrupled) so flights need to as well.
We can't have our cake (ultra cheap fares) and eat it (good service and leg room) too.

Finally, somebody gets it!:cool:

skylady Jul 6, 2013 4:21 am


Originally Posted by Spiff (Post 21021827)
I disagree completely with your statements.

Supply and demand sets the prices.

Prevailing wages are what the market will bear. Any airline employee who feels he/she is underpaid should feel free to seek employment elsewhere. Peanuts? This a tired, worn cliche.

Pilots getting $163 dollars an hour, and FAs getting $47 at the top of the pay scale are doing pretty well. It;s the work rules that have us by the cojones. The cuts are in the insurance and flying thresholds

skylady Jul 6, 2013 4:35 am

Just think, Spifff=, alll those new spiffy guys and gals are all shapes and sizes and ages as well

:cool:

beachmouse Jul 6, 2013 9:12 am


Originally Posted by skylady (Post 21048736)
Pilots getting $163 dollars an hour, and FAs getting $47 at the top of the pay scale are doing pretty well. It;s the work rules that have us by the cojones. The cuts are in the insurance and flying thresholds

Which doesn't happen on many second tier routes. The commuter airlines that dominate the high fare small airports around here are infamous for paying so little that your copilot for the $200 250 mile trip to Atlanta qualifies for food stamps in many states.

Spiff Jul 6, 2013 9:21 am


Originally Posted by skylady (Post 21048736)
Pilots getting $163 dollars an hour, and FAs getting $47 at the top of the pay scale are doing pretty well. It;s the work rules that have us by the cojones. The cuts are in the insurance and flying thresholds


Originally Posted by skylady (Post 21048763)
Just think, Spifff=, alll those new spiffy guys and gals are all shapes and sizes and ages as well

:cool:

Yes, but what of it? :confused:

No one is forced to work for the airline.

Furthermore, even if fares were to increase for no good reason, how much of that increase do you think the employees would see?

The OP's premises remain quite flawed, if not completely invalid.

mecabq Jul 6, 2013 9:33 am


Originally Posted by yandosan (Post 21022717)
Nice rant but how exactly would you change things?

It wasn't a rant; it was a proposal to increase fares in order to
enhance services related to flying. Wasn't that obvious?

Fair point. I think that we are being a bit hard on the OP. It's true that prices have fallen substantially in real terms since deregulation. But that's just supply and demand. The market has spoken -- customers prefer the cheapest fare and are willing to forego amenities for that.

If you think that there is a market for a more premium service at a higher price, you can join the countless entrepreneurs who have had the same idea, started airlines, and gone down in flames. There are many threads about that here.


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