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Nice rant but how exactly would you change things?
It wasn't a rant; it was a proposal to increase fares in order to enhance services related to flying. Wasn't that obvious? |
There is already a premium option offering exactly what you want--higher fares, increased amenities.
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in the 1970's, pre ff programs, dal-either coast [lax/lga] was ~ $500 rt....maybe a bit lower now, but 40 years of inflation later....
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Originally Posted by yandosan
(Post 21022717)
Nice rant but how exactly would you change things?
It wasn't a rant; it was a proposal to increase fares in order to enhance services related to flying. Wasn't that obvious? |
Originally Posted by yandosan
(Post 21022535)
If longer flights averaged about $300 per 1000 miles (RT) I think they could
re-implement luxury. Sorry, just my 2 cents. Premium only airlines or flights have come and gone, and mostly unprofitable. Two premium only services I know of remain on legacy airlines, and then there is private. |
$500 in 1970 would be worth $3000 in 2013 per a calculator using the cpi...
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If only there was a way to pay more, and fly in a premium cabin.. Oh wait, there is. First or Business Class.
I suppose what I was getting at was some happy medium between cattle class and First Class. |
Originally Posted by yandosan
(Post 21022848)
I suppose what I was getting at was some happy medium
between cattle class and First Class. on Delta... Economy Plus on United... Personally, I would not call it a happy medium but rather semi-misery medium. |
Originally Posted by yandosan
(Post 21021376)
Flying is too cheap. It's turned American flights into cattle-class headache
excursions. One should not in 2013 be able to fly from LA to NYC and back for $320. That's the same price it was in 1988--I remember-- that's the first time I made the trip. $600 is a reasonable price for a trip across the continent, and back. Flight attendants are upset and uncooperative, pilots too, airport staff, all underpaid. What do you expect when you pay them peanuts? Everything else has gone up in price (gas quadrupled) so flights need to as well. We can't have our cake (ultra cheap fares) and eat it (good service and leg room) too. |
Why not buy 2 seats if the OP wants to spend more?
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Those are some remarkable $320 RT cross country fares you're seeing. I fly SFO>JFK 6+ times a year and my average spend is more like $400-500. If only I could convince my family to celebrate Xmas at a more affordable time!.
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Originally Posted by yandosan
(Post 21021376)
Flying is too cheap. It's turned American flights into cattle-class headache
excursions. One should not in 2013 be able to fly from LA to NYC and back for $320. That's the same price it was in 1988--I remember-- that's the first time I made the trip. $600 is a reasonable price for a trip across the continent, and back. Flight attendants are upset and uncooperative, pilots too, airport staff, all underpaid. What do you expect when you pay them peanuts? Everything else has gone up in price (gas quadrupled) so flights need to as well. We can't have our cake (ultra cheap fares) and eat it (good service and leg room) too. |
Originally Posted by mbece
(Post 21022133)
This post made me laugh. You can pay way over $320 to fly from coast to coast.
Or you could pay $120 for a intro to microeconomics book. https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/eco...19260862?mt=11 |
Cattle-class headaches are not limited to the USA...plenty of pain involved with Ryanair and other LCCs in the world.
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Originally Posted by TA
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Well, then remove a few carriers from the market (you can even see that happening through mergers), prevent new ones from entering so that ticket prices can rise, and allow airlines to improve service.
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