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ExitRowAisle Nov 23, 2009 6:58 pm

Up to a 250% Holiday Bonus
 
FAQ: The most frequent questions about this promotion:

Moderator Note: As we get to the final days of this promotion and more people are just learning of it and coming here to learn as quickly as possible about the details, we're seeing a large number of the same questions, over and over again. In an attempt to help people in this situation, FT member ramolnar was kind enough to write up this FAQ, which I will insert here, at the top of this initial post. The initial post, with the details and terms and conditions of the promotion still appear below in this post, unchanged. Thank you ramolnar! ^

US Airways Shopping Bonus FAQ


1. What do I need to do to get the 250% bonus?
You need to have transactions post from 5 different stores in the promotion, with a posting date between November 23 and December 30, 2009. If this is true, you will get the bonus on up to 10 separate transactions, the 10 with the earliest posting dates. See post #317 (http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/12957161-post317.html).

2. What counts as a different store?
Only the stores listed on the promotion page (http://shopping.usairways.com/en-US/...ner_promo.html) According to official communications, each different merchant in the Dividend Miles Shopping Mall is considered a different merchant.

3. Does TrackItBack have to be the 5th transaction to post?
No. They can post in any order.

4. How do I get miles for very cheap?
Make four other transactions that will post, then a large TrackItBack purchase. You must go through www.TrackItBack.com/US to do so. You'll get 40 miles per US dollar once it posts, then 100 miles per dollar on March 1. Counting auxiliary costs, that's about $73 per 10,000 miles.

5. Are the transactions actually posting?
Yes. TrackItBack uses a Tuesday cutoff, and the miles post on Wednesdays. This makes the estimated cutoff for TrackItBack the afternoon of Tuesday, December 29. Jason Wagner, the founder of TrackItBack, is posting in this thread as member trackitback. Customer service has been good.

6. What are other good values?
Sharebuilder can be very lucrative and tends to post quickly. With the bonus, it's 10,500 miles for starting an account of any size, taking less than $20 total. Sharebuilder also posts quickly - sometimes the next day.

FTD is good value; with bonus, 70 miles per dollar. FTD tends to post quickly. However, multiple orders from FTD have been posting as multiple transactions, even when paid at once. So ordering 7 flower bouquets can eat up 7 transactions.

7. What else is cheap and posts quickly?
ThanksAgain: Go through to restaurant.com and get a gift certificate for $4 or less. You need to make a Thanks Again account, link a credit card and then use the click-thru from Thanks Again to Restaurant.com and pay for the purchase with the credit card on your profile. If you search, you'll find discount codes.

Gaiam: In the Shopping Mall, you can make a $2 donation for a tree.

Gift Cards: there are plenty of merchants (Sears, Barnes and Noble, OfficeMax, and others) that will let you buy small gift cards with cheap shipping.

In general, Shopping Mall purchases tend to post on Mondays and Thursdays. There may be some delay, so getting these done before Christmas would be safer.

8. What about non-Americans?
TrackItBack will ship to Canada, Australia, and likely other places. Beyond that, you'll need to find merchants that accept international orders. There should be enough in the Shopping Mall.

9. This is great, but can I do even better?
There are discussions about donating the TrackItBack luggage tags and stickers to non-profits. For people who itemize, that makes a charitable contribution. You'll have to find someone that wants them - try universities and groups that fund charitable travel. There are more restrictions - read the IRS rules - but this will reduce your cost even more.

10. Are these miles worth it, or are they more like Zimbabwe currency?
US Airways published the Star Alliance award chart for 2010 (www.usairways.com/goawards). It's decent; for example, business class US to Europe is 100K miles, and business class US to North Asia is 90K. There is a $50 fee per booking. However, unlike United, Star Alliance carriers are not blocked. You might have to help the agents find something, but they will book it.

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Original post:

I saw this offer in an e-mail from US Airways tonight:

Shop your way to a bigger bonus
A 250% holiday bonus never looked so good!*
This isn't your average bonus – it grows every time you shop at a different store. See how many stores you can shop at and watch your bonus grow at every one. You'll get extra Dividend Miles and additional bonuses, up to 250% for every dollar you spend.

All you have to do is shop! Shop your favorite participating stores November 23 - December 30, 2009.

Get your big bonus:
Shop online at any of the participating stores by clicking on the links listed below.
There's no need to register. Just enter your Dividend Miles number each time you shop.
Shop at 1 store and get a 50% bonus on your purchase. Shop at 5 different stores and get a 250% bonus.**
We'll add your final big bonus to every purchase you make throughout the entire promotion period, up to 10 individual purchases.
Stores shopped at: Bonus earned:

1 50%
2 100%
3 150%
4 200%
5 250%


Participating merchants:
(Click on the links below to be eligible for bonus miles.)

FTD
20 miles for every dollar you spend, plus 250 bonus miles on flowers and gifts

Dividend Miles Wireless
4,000 miles when you activate a new account or renew an exsiting account

Biscoff
2 miles for every dollar you spend, plus 250 bonus miles (additional 250 miles when you spend $50 or more)

TrackItBack
40 miles for every dollar you spend

macys.com
3 miles for every dollar you spend

Barnes & Noble
3 miles for every dollar you spend

Harry & David
4 miles for every dollar you spend

Sears.com
2 miles for every dollar you spent

Omaha Steaks
5 miles for every dollar you spent

Vinesse Wine Clubs
5 miles for every dollar you spend, plus 2,000 bonus miles when you join a wine club

ShareBuilder
500 extra bonus miles for a total of 3,000 miles for opening a new account

USA Today
4 weeks free, 1,000 sign-up mileage bonus and 200 miles per month

Other participating merchants:

21st Century Auto Insurance
Dividend Miles Shopping Mall
Netflix
OfficeMax
Sentry Insurance
SkyMall
Wine Insiders
ThanksAgain
Bose
Terms & Conditions


Terms and conditions: *No registration required. The US Airways Big Bonus Offer ('Offer') is available for transactions with participating Dividend Miles partners/stores listed on usairways.com/bigbonus only. Completed transactions with participating partners between November 23, 2009 and December 30, 2009 will receive a tiered bonus based on their qualified transactions during the promotion period. To attain a higher bonus tier, customers must shop at different participating stores during the promotion period. Tiered bonuses are as follows: One store = 50% bonus, two different stores = 100%, bonus, three different stores = 150% bonus, four different stores = 200% bonus, 5 different stores = 250% bonus. Transactions must have a posting date between November 23, 2009 and December 30, 2009 to qualify for the offer. A maximum of 10 combined transactions with any participating partners will be eligible for the bonus during the promotion period. Bonus amounts will be assigned in order of posting date(s) for qualified transactions. Offer excludes any partner sweepstakes offers. Miles do not count toward Dividend Miles Preferred status. US Airways is not responsible for the quality or delivery of goods and/or services provided by Dividend Miles partners. Offer subject to change with or without notice. All Dividend Miles terms and conditions apply. US Airways assumes no responsibility for how qualifying partners record eligible activity dates; some partners record eligible activity dates based on completion of the required activity (for example, delivery of the item purchased including delivery of flowers). You should check with the participating partner to confirm how the partner records eligible activity dates. The last date activity from a participating partner can be received by US Airways for bonus miles consideration is February 28, 2010, regardless of the eligible activity date. Bonus miles will be processed on March 1, 2010. **You must shop at 5 different stores to get a 250% bonus, for example FTD, Biscoff, ShareBuilder, macys.com and Vinesse, using the links provided in this email.

CactusFlier Nov 23, 2009 7:06 pm

Thanks...actually seems good! But, too bad each different merchant through the shopping mall was not its own (but that would be too easy to rake in the 250% bonus). Start shopping i guess.

ExitRowAisle Nov 23, 2009 7:18 pm

After reading back through the wording of this promo, these excerpts seem to contradict one another:

"We'll add your final big bonus to every purchase you make throughout the entire promotion period, up to 10 individual purchases."

AND

"Bonus amounts will be assigned in order of posting date(s) for qualified transactions."

The first implies that 5 different partners will generate a 250% bonus on all 5 transactions. The second suggests that the first transaction posted will earn a 50% bonus, the second will earn a 100% bonus, and so on.

This should be fun to sort out!

rookieflyer Nov 23, 2009 8:14 pm

it sounds to me like 50% for 1 up to %250 for 5 then if you do the remaining 5 will be at %250... :confused: I'm probably wrong

AZ Travels the World Nov 23, 2009 10:47 pm

Here is a link to the promo details on the US website.

vysean Nov 24, 2009 6:20 am


Originally Posted by CactusFlier (Post 12870035)
Thanks...actually seems good! But, too bad each different merchant through the shopping mall was not its own (but that would be too easy to rake in the 250% bonus). Start shopping i guess.

I ran some numbers when I got the email, but I can't see any way to justify spending for this promo. Best case scenario is 250%, and the best miles-to-dollars ratio is FTD or TrackItBack (please correct me if I'm wrong). So if I spend $20 (plus tax/shipping) on the cheapest TrackItBack item, which gets me 800 miles, which if subject to the 250% "boost" gets me a total of 2,000 miles.

Certainly not a bad deal, but keep in mind this is the most generous example (no other vendor gives 40 miles per dollar spent). Until the end of the year you can buy/share/gift miles for about the same cost per mile and not have to mess around with this promo, nevermind the Grand Slam promo was an even better deal when looking at CPM.


Originally Posted by ExitRowAisle (Post 12870098)
After reading back through the wording of this promo, these excerpts seem to contradict one another:

"We'll add your final big bonus to every purchase you make throughout the entire promotion period, up to 10 individual purchases."

AND

"Bonus amounts will be assigned in order of posting date(s) for qualified transactions."

The first implies that 5 different partners will generate a 250% bonus on all 5 transactions. The second suggests that the first transaction posted will earn a 50% bonus, the second will earn a 100% bonus, and so on.

This should be fun to sort out!

Who's going to be the first one to work this promo? Marty? Will look forward to clarification...


Originally Posted by rookieflyer (Post 12870370)
it sounds to me like 50% for 1 up to %250 for 5 then if you do the remaining 5 will be at %250... :confused: I'm probably wrong

That's how I would read it based on the comments here. When I originally read the email I assumed I'd get 50% for 1, 100% for 2, 150% for 3, 200% for 4, and 250% for 5, and then they'd go back and "gross-up" me to 250% for 1-4, but I hadn't read the T&C's (still haven't).

ExitRowAisle Nov 24, 2009 7:47 am


Originally Posted by vysean (Post 12871878)
I ran some numbers when I got the email, but I can't see any way to justify spending for this promo. Best case scenario is 250%, and the best miles-to-dollars ratio is FTD or TrackItBack (please correct me if I'm wrong). So if I spend $20 (plus tax/shipping) on the cheapest TrackItBack item, which gets me 800 miles, which if subject to the 250% "boost" gets me a total of 2,000 miles.

Certainly not a bad deal, but keep in mind this is the most generous example (no other vendor gives 40 miles per dollar spent). Until the end of the year you can buy/share/gift miles for about the same cost per mile and not have to mess around with this promo, nevermind the Grand Slam promo was an even better deal when looking at CPM.

No matter how the promotion is interpreted by US Airways, it seems to me that one should be able to front load his/her activity with low value partners (e.g., Thanks Again, DM Shopping, Bose, etc.) and then sign up for Sharebuilder as one of your 5th-10th partners and earn 10,500 miles (3,000 standard miles + 7,500 bonus miles). Assuming one has never used Sharebuilder before and can time the postings properly, what would be wrong with that strategy?

Sentry would be another good selection for Partner Nos. 5-10, as one would earn 5,250 miles (1,500 base miles + 3,750 bonus miles).

vysean Nov 24, 2009 8:07 am


Originally Posted by ExitRowAisle (Post 12872260)
No matter how the promotion is interpreted by US Airways, it seems to me that one should be able to front load his/her activity with low value partners (e.g., Thanks Again, DM Shopping, Bose, etc.) and then sign up for Sharebuilder as one of your 5th-10th partners and earn 10,500 miles (3,000 standard miles + 7,500 bonus miles). Assuming one has never used Sharebuilder before and can time the postings properly, what would be wrong with that strategy?

Sentry would be another good selection for Partner Nos. 5-10, as one would earn 5,250 miles (1,500 base miles + 3,750 bonus miles).

Nothing at all wrong with that strategy so long as you didn't use either of those partners for the Grand Slam promo.

Dividend Miles Wireless would be a better deal if you needed a new phone and were willing to commit to the contract. 4,000 base plus 10,000 bonus.

Same for Netflix - 1,500 base + 3,750 bonus.

kinglobjaw Nov 24, 2009 8:40 am

Got this via email last night.

Under other participating merchants it lists the DM Shopping Mall. Does that mean all merchants under the DM Shopping Mall would qualify for this offer? I would think so. I need to make a Dell purchase this evening and am wondering if I should go the original route of cashback or DM Miles.

-Kinglobjaw

ArizonaGuy Nov 24, 2009 9:30 am

Seems Track-it-back is the most lucrative for the highest mileage count? There are only so many "freebies" of thousands of bonus miles for a few dollars that it then comes down to Track-it-Back at 40 miles per $1 or FTD at 20 miles per $1 - correct?

FTD effectively becomes 50 miles per $1 - 2 cpm not so good. Track-it-back becomes 100 miles per $1, or 1 cpm. Cheaper than then buy miles promo. Not taking into account the other 4 shopping purchases you also must make, of course.

Beckles Nov 24, 2009 9:31 am


Originally Posted by ExitRowAisle (Post 12870098)
After reading back through the wording of this promo, these excerpts seem to contradict one another:

"We'll add your final big bonus to every purchase you make throughout the entire promotion period, up to 10 individual purchases."

AND

"Bonus amounts will be assigned in order of posting date(s) for qualified transactions."

The first implies that 5 different partners will generate a 250% bonus on all 5 transactions. The second suggests that the first transaction posted will earn a 50% bonus, the second will earn a 100% bonus, and so on.

This should be fun to sort out!

The way I read it is the second rule applies to the limit of 10 transactions, so if you have 15 transactions over the promotion period only the first 10 based on posting date will get the bonus.

Beckles Nov 24, 2009 9:51 am

I'm almost afaid to post this, because honestly it's too good to be true. I would implore any Flyertalker reading this thread to not disseminate what I'm about to post beyond this thread because I can't imagine this will last. (Well I know I can't control it, I will be very disappointed in any Flyertalker who disobeys my stated wishes and posts this anywhere beyond this thread).

Folks, this is a BONANZA. Knock out four cheap transactions, say a Gaiam $2 donation through DM mall, cheap item from Bose, cheap item from Barnes & Noble, and a Restaurant.com gift certificate through Thanks Again, you're in for maybe $20.

You can now purchase miles at a rate of approximately 140 miles/dollar from Track-It-Back (40 miles/dollar plus 250% bonus). $300 small business pack from Track-It-Back ... 12,000 miles + 30,000 mile bonus = 42,000 miles. 3 of those small business packs = 126,000 miles, a First Class ticket on Lufthansa to Europe for $900 + taxes/fees.

vysean Nov 24, 2009 10:49 am

Okay, for those interested in doing this (and sincere thanks to Beckles for the review), here's what I did:
  1. $2.00 - US Airways Shopping Mall (GAIAM) - donated a tree
  2. $2.00 - ThanksAgain (restaurant.com) - purchased a $10 gift certificate using coupon "THANKS"
  3. $4.27 - Bose - purchased the 18" headphone extension cable (incl. tax/shipping)
  4. $10.95 - Barnes and Noble - purchased $10 gift card (incl. $0.95 shipping).
  5. $304.94 - TrackItBack - purchased $299.99 Small Business Pack (incl. $4.95 shipping)

Total miles earned:
  • GAIAM - 8 + 4 = 12 (50%)
  • ThanksAgain - 6 + 6 = 12 (100%)
  • Bose - 8 + 12 = 20 (150%)
  • Barnes and Noble - 30 + 60 = 90 (200%)
  • TrackItBack - 12,000 + 30,000 = 42,000 (250%)
  • TOTAL: 42,134 for $324.16, or .7 CPM ($0.00769)

So in the final tally, this is cheaper than the sharing or buying of miles under the 100% bonus plan. It's not as good of a deal as the Grand Slam, but still nothing to sneeze at.

Beckles Nov 24, 2009 11:11 am

I'm pretty sure you'll get 250% bonus on everything, not that it changes your calcs much. However, if you're really worried about that I would space your transactions out to make sure the lower mileage ones post first.

vysean Nov 24, 2009 11:19 am


Originally Posted by Beckles (Post 12873443)
I'm pretty sure you'll get 250% bonus on everything, not that it changes your calcs much. However, if you're really worried about that I would space your transactions out to make sure the lower mileage ones post first.

An excellent idea, and why I haven't yet pulled the trigger on the TrackItBack purchase. I'm going to wait until Monday or Tuesday to do so. Plus I'm trying to figure out if I should go ahead and buy two of them for an extra 42,000 miles.

I note with extreme caution the fine print on the promo that notes US Airways isn't responsible for the date at which miles are credited.

mrwise Nov 24, 2009 11:44 am


Originally Posted by vysean (Post 12873489)
An excellent idea, and why I haven't yet pulled the trigger on the TrackItBack purchase. I'm going to wait until Monday or Tuesday to do so. Plus I'm trying to figure out if I should go ahead and buy two of them for an extra 42,000 miles.

I note with extreme caution the fine print on the promo that notes US Airways isn't responsible for the date at which miles are credited.

It also says in the fine print that "Bonus miles will be processed on March 1, 2010". So are we supposed to wait till that date for the bonus miles to post?

vysean Nov 24, 2009 12:55 pm


Originally Posted by mrwise (Post 12873613)
It also says in the fine print that "Bonus miles will be processed on March 1, 2010". So are we supposed to wait till that date for the bonus miles to post?

I really should read the fine print more often. :mad:

I'm not going to mess with this promo if I have to wait for more than four months to see the miles. Hell, I'm burning down my mileage pile before January just in case.

ArizonaGuy Nov 24, 2009 1:53 pm


Originally Posted by vysean (Post 12874025)
I really should read the fine print more often. :mad:

I'm not going to mess with this promo if I have to wait for more than four months to see the miles. Hell, I'm burning down my mileage pile before January just in case.

Haha. Schadenfreude. It's kind of scary that you've been missing the fine print of the promos lately. First the sharing miles = 1 hit versus 2 hits, now this. Maybe you better burn those miles for a vacation in Tahiti. Or better yet - Tasmania. Great place!

vysean Nov 24, 2009 2:06 pm


Originally Posted by ArizonaGuy (Post 12874379)
Haha. Schadenfreude. It's kind of scary that you've been missing the fine print of the promos lately. First the sharing miles = 1 hit versus 2 hits, now this. Maybe you better burn those miles for a vacation in Tahiti. Or better yet - Tasmania. Great place!

Yeah, yeah, at least I pay a little more attention at work... ;)

I'll still eek out 28 hits, not so sure about the family member. As for this promo, I'll wait a couple of weeks and see if by chance they post with bonuses - if they do I might bite the bullet on the big one. I've only got 220k in the account and wouldn't mind bumping up and over 300k - 140k to South Pacific in F and a 120k North Asia F, with a little left over for an intra-South Pacific C.

ArizonaGuy Nov 24, 2009 2:26 pm


Originally Posted by vysean (Post 12874446)
Yeah, yeah, at least I pay a little more attention at work... ;)

I'll still eek out 28 hits, not so sure about the family member. As for this promo, I'll wait a couple of weeks and see if by chance they post with bonuses - if they do I might bite the bullet on the big one. I've only got 220k in the account and wouldn't mind bumping up and over 300k - 140k to South Pacific in F and a 120k North Asia F, with a little left over for an intra-South Pacific C.

See, there's the thing - South Pacific in F just bugs me. At least one direction I always hope to go via NZ. I could still do that and go F the other way but I hate the rub of paying the higher rate for C.

Whether I make 28 hits is going to depend on Vinese which posted the 16th, whether Budget rental posts, and whether Wine Insiders and/or DM Wireless show up. But that belongs in the other thread. :)

vysean Nov 24, 2009 2:29 pm


Originally Posted by ArizonaGuy (Post 12874587)
See, there's the thing - South Pacific in F just bugs me. At least one direction I always hope to go via NZ. I could still do that and go F the other way but I hate the rub of paying the higher rate for C.

There's always US->North Asia in F, connecting in NRT/KIX/HKG to AKL in C to get the NZ experience, with all-F on the return... ;)

ArizonaGuy Nov 24, 2009 2:40 pm


Originally Posted by vysean (Post 12874603)
There's always US->North Asia in F, connecting in NRT/KIX/HKG to AKL in C to get the NZ experience, with all-F on the return... ;)

Came home from SYD via North Asia as that was all that was available on the date of travel. As much as I like spending time in premium cabins and lounges like the rest of FT, there's something to be said for maximizing your time at your destination. Two long haul 10+ hour flights and a layover versus one? I tend to prefer the one if vacation time is short. Especially if the wife is with me.

jghassell Nov 24, 2009 7:05 pm


Originally Posted by vysean (Post 12873315)
Okay, for those interested in doing this (and sincere thanks to Beckles for the review), here's what I did:
  1. $2.00 - US Airways Shopping Mall (GAIAM) - donated a tree
  2. $2.00 - ThanksAgain (restaurant.com) - purchased a $10 gift certificate using coupon "THANKS"
  3. $4.27 - Bose - purchased the 18" headphone extension cable (incl. tax/shipping)
  4. $10.95 - Barnes and Noble - purchased $10 gift card (incl. $0.95 shipping).
  5. $304.94 - TrackItBack - purchased $299.99 Small Business Pack (incl. $4.95 shipping)

Total miles earned:
  • GAIAM - 8 + 4 = 12 (50%)
  • ThanksAgain - 6 + 6 = 12 (100%)
  • Bose - 8 + 12 = 20 (150%)
  • Barnes and Noble - 30 + 60 = 90 (200%)
  • TrackItBack - 12,000 + 30,000 = 42,000 (250%)
  • TOTAL: 42,134 for $324.16, or .7 CPM ($0.00769)

So in the final tally, this is cheaper than the sharing or buying of miles under the 100% bonus plan. It's not as good of a deal as the Grand Slam, but still nothing to sneeze at.

I just did purchases 1-4. I'm going to wait until at least the base miles post (bonus miles not until March, apparently?) and then pull the trigger on that TrackItBack small business package.

Not hating 42,000 miles for $325, that's for sure.

kinglobjaw Nov 24, 2009 10:25 pm

Here's another thing I'm wondering about. Can purchases 1-4 be all made from DM Shopping Mall but different merchants? For example,

1) iTunes
2) Gaiam
3) BestBuy
4) Dell
and for the grand finale:
5) Trackitback

-Kinglobjaw

kinglobjaw Nov 24, 2009 11:29 pm

Here's what I came up with. Basically, I'm doing this, because I'm sending my dad to KRK Poland for Christmas. With coach fares nearing $1500 I should charge him a $1000 and pocket the ca$hmoney since I already got some decent flights for him. I have spare miles so I'm just hoping to replenish the 50K I used up today! :D

I just completed:

1) Barnes & Noble $10 gift card
2) Sears $5 gift card
3) Thanksagain purchase iTune through their own portal (will earn miles as I did this from G-Slam)
4) Century 21 Insurance Quote
5) Gaiam $2 donation (part of DM Shopping Mall)
6) Omaha Steaks $5 gift card (as a buffer)
7) Will probably do one more buffer
I'm now going to wait a few more days for some of these to start posting and will then go for the Trackitback. Netflix is also a neat option as it's 1500 miles + bonus for only 9.95.

-Kinglobjaw

andyandy Nov 25, 2009 7:41 am

I'm seeing some different math from different folks and I think it hinges on how we interpret "bonus." For instance, TrackItBack pays 40 miles to the dollar. Some folks are calculating the "bonus" as bringing the total miles per dollar to 100 (40x2.5) while others calculate it as brining the total miles per dollar to 140 (40+40x2.5). The t&cs don't seem to be explicit on this subject, unless I'm missing something.

I think the plain language of the offer indicates that the "bonus" will be 250% above and beyond the base ppm, but you never know what an airline thinks. Thoughts?

Beckles Nov 25, 2009 8:00 am

Damn Bloggers
 
Well folks, like the infamous 100 miles/dollar 1-800-Flowers promotion I think this will get pulled early because it's so valuable, which is why when I pointed out the route to 140 miles/dollar I asked:

Originally Posted by Beckles (Post 12873007)
I would implore any Flyertalker reading this thread to not disseminate what I'm about to post beyond this thread because I can't imagine this will last.

Of course all I can do is ask and hope Flyertalkers have the common courtesy to respect my wishes about something I posted. Last night this blog post appeared. What is simply incredible about this blogger is that they credit vysean for pointing this out. Of course, if you look at the information the blogger posted and compare it to the post vysean posted it in, vysean clearly does the right thing (i.e., crediting the proper source) and credits me for identifying the deal.

Originally Posted by vysean (Post 12873315)
Okay, for those interested in doing this (and sincere thanks to Beckles for the review), here's what I did:

I was hoping to keep this deal low key, at least the blogger didn't put too much emphasis on what a ridiculous deal 140 miles/dollar is (even on US).

Beckles Nov 25, 2009 8:03 am


Originally Posted by andyandy (Post 12878148)
I'm seeing some different math from different folks and I think it hinges on how we interpret "bonus." For instance, TrackItBack pays 40 miles to the dollar. Some folks are calculating the "bonus" as bringing the total miles per dollar to 100 (40x2.5) while others calculate it as brining the total miles per dollar to 120 (40+40x2.5). The t&cs don't seem to be explicit on this subject, unless I'm missing something.

I think the plain language of the offer indicates that the "bonus" will be 250% above and beyond the base ppm, but you never know what an airline thinks. Thoughts?

The first math is clearly incorrect, if you only did one partner they are not going to cut your partner miles in half because you only did one partner.

andyandy Nov 25, 2009 8:16 am


Originally Posted by Beckles (Post 12878289)
The first math is clearly incorrect, if you only did one partner they are not going to cut your partner miles in half because you only did one partner.

Of course, the promotion is quite clear that you must make 5 purchases to get to the 250% bonus. But I think I've answered my own question. At the base level, the bonus is 50%. I can't imagine that the T&Cs contemplate reducing the miles awarded. Consequently, the "bonus" must be above and beyond the base offer, i.e. 40 mpd base + 100 mpd bonus.

kopflyer Nov 25, 2009 8:25 am

Some mileage credit cards give you double points for each dollar spent with their retail partners. Does anyone know if this is the case with US's Premier World MasterCard? The language on the sign-up offer says "earn double miles on all US Airways purchases" - does that mean flights only?

If they do allow double points on retail, this could to be too good to pass up: ((40*2)+(40x2.5)) = 180

Beckles Nov 25, 2009 8:32 am


Originally Posted by kopflyer (Post 12878423)
Some mileage credit cards give you double points for each dollar spent with their retail partners. Does anyone know if this is the case with US's Premier World MasterCard? The language on the sign-up offer says "earn double miles on all US Airways purchases" - does that mean flights only?

If they do allow double points on retail, this could to be too good to pass up: ((40*2)+(40x2.5)) = 180

More bad math, it's rampant! :) :)

First, the double points in the case of the US card does refer only to US purchases (though not just flights, onboard purchases for example should count). There is at least one airline card, WN's Chase Visa, that extends that to their frequent flier partners, so with the WN card you get double credit for purchases at hotel and rental car partners.

That being said, in the case of the US card, even if it were doubled on that rule only the 1 mile/dollar you earn from the card would be doubled, not the bonus you get. The correct math when using a US credit card is:

40 miles/dollar + (40 miles/dollar x 250% bonus) + 1 mile/dollar = 141 miles/dollar. Even if you got "double miles" on the purchase it would only increase it to 142 miles/dollar.

kopflyer Nov 25, 2009 8:38 am


Originally Posted by Beckles (Post 12878466)
Even if you got "double miles" on the purchase it would only increase it to 142 miles/dollar.

You're right...I got too excited by the prospect of all those miles! :D

Thanks for straightening us out.

mooper Nov 25, 2009 10:56 am

Superb suggestions in this thread - thanks, guys.

One thing missing, however, is inclusion of the value of some of the products purchased to obtain the miles. Of course, if you spend $300 with TrackItBack and could care less about the service, then you shouldn't assign much value, but if you are buying $300 worth of flowers/gift baskets that you were planning on sending for the holidays anyway, then your value of such goods should be factored into the equation.

For example, let's say you were *already willing and planning* to use the 20 miles/dollar offer with FTD to order a gift basket priced at $100 for your grandmother's birthday, and that you value your miles at 1.5 CPM. This means that the gift basket itself is worth at least $70 to you, as you were willing to pay $100 to obtain the gift plus the value of the miles (100*20*.015) = $30. Now with this new promo, you are *still* paying $100 to get the gift you deemed to be worth $70, but you are now getting 7,000 miles as well. Therefore, you are paying $30 over your valuation of the gift to obtain 7,000 miles, or about .43 cents per mile (CPM)! This is a much better price than outlined in previous analyses that ignore the value of the product being purchased and focus purely on the miles. Of course, if you change the original assumptions (for example, if you were only willing to place the original order with a 40 miles/dollar offer, indicating the real value of the gift to you is $40, then you are paying .85 CPM), then it might not be as appealing of a deal, but in many cases, still a good one.

Shifting gears... as the promo lists Dividend Miles Shopping Mall as one partner, what would happen if your first four partners (to boost yourself to 250% for $20) are handled, but then you make purchases from *multiple* stores within the DMSM (say, Dell, Macy's, and Shoebuy)? In a similar vein to the above discussion, someone might be inclined to focus their purchases on items they already intended to buy and value, shunning the pure mile purchase play. Do the rules indicate that only one of these purchases would see the 250% bonus?

Beckles Nov 25, 2009 12:07 pm


Originally Posted by mooper (Post 12879324)
Superb suggestions in this thread - thanks, guys.

One thing missing, however, is inclusion of the value of some of the products purchased to obtain the miles. Of course, if you spend $300 with TrackItBack and could care less about the service, then you shouldn't assign much value, but if you are buying $300 worth of flowers/gift baskets that you were planning on sending for the holidays anyway, then your value of such goods should be factored into the equation.

For example, let's say you were *already willing and planning* to use a 25 miles/dollar offer with FTD to order a $100 gift basket for your grandmother's birthday, and that you value your miles at 1.5 CPM. This means that the order is worth at least $62.50 to you, as you were willing to lay out $100 less the value of the miles (100*25*.015) = $37.50 to obtain it. Now with this new promo, you are *still* getting what you

This is sound advice, the FTD stuff gives a pretty high miles/dollar rate that is likely something useful (though I think Track-It-Back is useful, there is probably a limit to how many tags one person needs :)).

Note that with FTD shipping and/or delivery can be pricey and does not earn miles, just make sure to factor that in your calculations.

mrwise Nov 25, 2009 12:16 pm

Hmm...I'm sorely tempted to make use of this offer and get miles through this route, but the unfortunate thing is I will need the miles rather quickly, and it appears I will have to wait till March 2010 for the bonus miles to post. :( This makes sense from a US perspective, otherwise US would run the risk of cannibalizing customers from their other ongoing mileage offers.Too bad!

kopflyer Nov 25, 2009 1:15 pm

One more point for clarification:

The text of the rules state: "We'll add your final big bonus to every purchase you make throughout the entire promotion period, up to 10 individual purchases."

From past experience, can anyone tell if this typically means 10 individual products purchased, or 10 transactions (regardless of the number of items purchased as part of a single transaction)? If, for example, I purchased two (or more) flower arrangements from FTD at the same time as part of a single shopping cart transaction, will that count as one or two of my 10 allowed?

mooper Nov 25, 2009 1:32 pm


Originally Posted by Beckles (Post 12879707)
This is sound advice, the FTD stuff gives a pretty high miles/dollar rate that is likely something useful (though I think Track-It-Back is useful, there is probably a limit to how many tags one person needs :)).

Note that with FTD shipping and/or delivery can be pricey and does not earn miles, just make sure to factor that in your calculations.

Sorry - I had done a quick edit on my original post and accidentally deleted its second half. I've corrected it now.

Your point is a good one, and you'd need to adjust my numbers to account for that, but the illustrated point remains the same: If you are purchasing items you assign real value to, this value should be added to the equation.

ExitRowAisle Nov 25, 2009 1:43 pm


Originally Posted by kopflyer (Post 12880046)
One more point for clarification:

The text of the rules state: "We'll add your final big bonus to every purchase you make throughout the entire promotion period, up to 10 individual purchases."

From past experience, can anyone tell if this typically means 10 individual products purchased, or 10 transactions (regardless of the number of items purchased as part of a single transaction)? If, for example, I purchased two (or more) flower arrangements from FTD at the same time as part of a single shopping cart transaction, will that count as one or two of my 10 allowed?

IMO, a "purchase" will equate to a single posting in your US Airways account -- so if you buy 10 products from a partner, and they all get shipped, billed, and posted to US Airways in one fell swoop, that will count as 1 partner.

It seems like the consensus on WebFlyer, the previously mentioned blog, and others in this thread is that the use of 5 partners will cause every bonus posted to be 250%. Since I haven't seen anyone post a clarification of the matter from US Airways, I guess I'm the only one who finds the original wording problematic.

That being said, once a person purchases from 5 different partners, is the consensus that one can get partner credit for Nos. 6-10 by purchasing from a previously used partner, or does one have to use 10 unique partners?

JudyJFLA Nov 25, 2009 2:54 pm

I am assuming from the email that if I use 5 different vendors than all purchases will get the 250% bonus. Finally a good enough offer to join Netflix. Time to buy a BIG gift card from everyone if the DM Mall counts as more than 1 partner?

JudyJFLA

mooper Nov 25, 2009 9:04 pm


Originally Posted by kinglobjaw (Post 12876730)
Here's another thing I'm wondering about. Can purchases 1-4 be all made from DM Shopping Mall but different merchants? For example,

1) iTunes
2) Gaiam
3) BestBuy
4) Dell
and for the grand finale:
5) Trackitback

-Kinglobjaw

I'm wondering this too. Anyone have the answer?


Originally Posted by vysean (Post 12873315)
[*]$4.27 - Bose - purchased the 18" headphone extension cable (incl. tax/shipping).

The "Bose on-ear headphones replacement audio cable – short" is $3.95 and free shipping. Slight improvement on this.


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