Should I be annoyed at this?
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Should I be annoyed at this?
Flying LAX-PHL yesterday, decided to standby for a later flight. While in the club (25 mins before flight time), the US rep notified me that I had been upgraded, but they could not serve me a meal becuase I was not originally on that flight. So when the FA came around to take food orders, he just asked me whether I wanted anything beyond my bottle of water to drink. I asked him whether I could be given a coach meal for free or something...I was quite hungry (and didn't have enough time to grab something in the terminal). He replied "I'll see what's left." After serving everyone else, he offered me a half-filled coffee cup containing some kind of soup (some meal). I told him this wouldn't fly and I requested one of the coach meals as a replacement. He said he could not give me one, but would sell it to me for $10.
This seemed rather outrageous to me. It shouldn't matter how you end up in first class; everyone should be treated equally. Furthermore, when they screw up, they should try to accomodate...and three ounces of leftover soup doesn't count. Shouldn't they have just given me a coach meal for free to make up for the mistake? Or am I annoyed at something insignificant?
This seemed rather outrageous to me. It shouldn't matter how you end up in first class; everyone should be treated equally. Furthermore, when they screw up, they should try to accomodate...and three ounces of leftover soup doesn't count. Shouldn't they have just given me a coach meal for free to make up for the mistake? Or am I annoyed at something insignificant?
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In years past, I would say that this would be outrageous. Now however, I would say that US is just being cost conscience. I know that it seems "cheap", but apparently they are looking to save money any way that they can. To be honest, ten bucks for any on-board food seems high as well. Should it not at least be subsidized to make it more appealing? How about 5 bucks? Back to your point, I imagine that an e-mail or letter to customer service will net you something in return. I think that the toughest part of all of this is how to make yourself look like SWA or JetBlue without "looking" like SWA or JetBlue. Rather, US's challenge and others like them is to keep costs low while offering something that the discounters don't: First Class Seating, a meal, etc. I don't think that this will get any better, since apparently, US does not even use glassware in first. Good Luck!
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It's nothing personal, just the way the place is run. First you cut everything but the toilet paper. Then you tell the help they are losing jobs and taking pay cuts because customers (especially those on upgrades) don't spend enough. That kind of makes some of them enjoy seeing you not get fed. Lastly, when your losses continue, the next time you report, you tell the financial community it was weather related, as opposed to a main hub where nothing runs on time, the personnel require subtitles to be understood, the planes are designed for midgets, and the bags disappear faster than first class seats.
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This has always happened, both before and after Chapter 11. They typically stock the F cabin for the anticipated load. If loads are looking light, they don't stock as much food.
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Not stocking a transcon with a full compliment of F meals is just plain stupid. Not giving our gentle poster a coach meal without giving up $10 is like adding insult to injury.
Send this one off to consumer affairs and Deb Thompson. Maybe you will make the "your fault" column next month.
The scary part about this is that it could have been somebody on an A4COACH or full-Y or even (god forbid) full-F fare that purchased late and now they don't get fed. Brilliant.
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Send this one off to consumer affairs and Deb Thompson. Maybe you will make the "your fault" column next month.
The scary part about this is that it could have been somebody on an A4COACH or full-Y or even (god forbid) full-F fare that purchased late and now they don't get fed. Brilliant.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ClueByFour:
Not stocking a transcon with a full compliment of F meals is just plain stupid. Not giving our gentle poster a coach meal without giving up $10 is like adding insult to injury.
Send this one off to consumer affairs and Deb Thompson. Maybe you will make the "your fault" column next month.
The scary part about this is that it could have been somebody on an A4COACH or full-Y or even (god forbid) full-F fare that purchased late and now they don't get fed. Brilliant.
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Not stocking a transcon with a full compliment of F meals is just plain stupid. Not giving our gentle poster a coach meal without giving up $10 is like adding insult to injury.
Send this one off to consumer affairs and Deb Thompson. Maybe you will make the "your fault" column next month.
The scary part about this is that it could have been somebody on an A4COACH or full-Y or even (god forbid) full-F fare that purchased late and now they don't get fed. Brilliant.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Epsilon359:
Flying LAX-PHL yesterday, decided to standby for a later flight.</font>
Flying LAX-PHL yesterday, decided to standby for a later flight.</font>
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2"> While in the club (25 mins before flight time), the US rep notified me that I had been upgraded, but they could not serve me a meal becuase I was not originally on that flight.
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Sorry Beckles, I really disagree. I think not having a first class meal is somewhat understandable. Not giving a free coach one is not in my opinion. I have been upgraded plenty of times at the last minute on AA and especially on UA. This has never been an issue. They really should provide all first class passengers a meal on transcons. This is the kind of thing that makes me think, as much as I like some aspects of US, that it is a "toy" airline compared to AA or UA.
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I also had an experience like this, although slightly different. A few weeks ago I was flying first class PIT-SFO in row 5. My upgrade was confirmed at the seven day window. There were four non-revs in first, including the person sitting next to me. As I was approached for my dinner selection, I was told that they were out of meals (the non-rev next to me was asked before me and she got a meal) I was offered a free coach meal. After waiting for 30 minutes, I asked where my meal was and was told that coach had sold out of their meals and nothing was available and she brought me the snack basket and told me to take as much as I wanted and was very apologetic. I also had some food with me so I didn't starve, but I wasn't happy. But then again, I am a cockroach.
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I agree with the idea that a coach meal should have been given to the F passenger...regardless of how/when you are upgraded, the class of First service should not be degraded.
In addition, it annoys the hell out of me when I am the last row of first and by the time the FA gets to me there is either only one choice or no choice of meals remaining. I understand the logic of starting at the front of first and moving to the back of the cabin asking what people want...but when a full fare first...full fare coach upgraded...or a US1 is denied a meal of his/her choice it's asinine. Those people should have a choice of meal before Gold, Silver or oversold bumped first passengers. I generally get an attitude when I say "I really wanted the sandwich...can I have one from coach?" However, I don't think that it is unreasonable...with over 130K miles so far...not all cockroach (but most) fares...I should get a choice of meal...not have to suffer just because I am in the last row of First.
My $.02
The Dawg
In addition, it annoys the hell out of me when I am the last row of first and by the time the FA gets to me there is either only one choice or no choice of meals remaining. I understand the logic of starting at the front of first and moving to the back of the cabin asking what people want...but when a full fare first...full fare coach upgraded...or a US1 is denied a meal of his/her choice it's asinine. Those people should have a choice of meal before Gold, Silver or oversold bumped first passengers. I generally get an attitude when I say "I really wanted the sandwich...can I have one from coach?" However, I don't think that it is unreasonable...with over 130K miles so far...not all cockroach (but most) fares...I should get a choice of meal...not have to suffer just because I am in the last row of First.
My $.02
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by gnomie:
I also had an experience like this, although slightly different. A few weeks ago I was flying first class PIT-SFO in row 5. My upgrade was confirmed at the seven day window. There were four non-revs in first, including the person sitting next to me. As I was approached for my dinner selection, I was told that they were out of meals (the non-rev next to me was asked before me and she got a meal) I was offered a free coach meal. After waiting for 30 minutes, I asked where my meal was and was told that coach had sold out of their meals and nothing was available and she brought me the snack basket and told me to take as much as I wanted and was very apologetic. I also had some food with me so I didn't starve, but I wasn't happy. But then again, I am a cockroach.</font>
I also had an experience like this, although slightly different. A few weeks ago I was flying first class PIT-SFO in row 5. My upgrade was confirmed at the seven day window. There were four non-revs in first, including the person sitting next to me. As I was approached for my dinner selection, I was told that they were out of meals (the non-rev next to me was asked before me and she got a meal) I was offered a free coach meal. After waiting for 30 minutes, I asked where my meal was and was told that coach had sold out of their meals and nothing was available and she brought me the snack basket and told me to take as much as I wanted and was very apologetic. I also had some food with me so I didn't starve, but I wasn't happy. But then again, I am a cockroach.</font>
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by deelmakur:
Clue, not that it matters, but are we sure Ms. Thompson is still around?</font>
Clue, not that it matters, but are we sure Ms. Thompson is still around?</font>
I credit the "Your Fault" parody to Tom B, whom I believe originated the term.
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I was upgraded on a 757 from PIT - Orlando last week. I listened to the Einstein offering to the coach pax (at $10 per box), "turkey sandwich and caesar salad".
The FA came around and plopped down a plastic bag with a tuna sandwich in front of me. I asked what the selection was, he told me that this was all they had......I told him to take it away.
After serving the coach cabin, he came back with an Einstein sandwich box to offer to me. I didn't take it, but assume that it was for free.
Evidently the food in the front cabin is different than what they're selling in coach. Maybe the stuff in coach is better?
The FA came around and plopped down a plastic bag with a tuna sandwich in front of me. I asked what the selection was, he told me that this was all they had......I told him to take it away.
After serving the coach cabin, he came back with an Einstein sandwich box to offer to me. I didn't take it, but assume that it was for free.
Evidently the food in the front cabin is different than what they're selling in coach. Maybe the stuff in coach is better?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by GadgetFreak:
Sorry Beckles, I really disagree. I think not having a first class meal is somewhat understandable. Not giving a free coach one is not in my opinion. I have been upgraded plenty of times at the last minute on AA and especially on UA. This has never been an issue. They really should provide all first class passengers a meal on transcons. This is the kind of thing that makes me think, as much as I like some aspects of US, that it is a "toy" airline compared to AA or UA.</font>
Sorry Beckles, I really disagree. I think not having a first class meal is somewhat understandable. Not giving a free coach one is not in my opinion. I have been upgraded plenty of times at the last minute on AA and especially on UA. This has never been an issue. They really should provide all first class passengers a meal on transcons. This is the kind of thing that makes me think, as much as I like some aspects of US, that it is a "toy" airline compared to AA or UA.</font>