SYD Upgrade Chances - LAX or SFO? [Merged]
Hey Folks
Flying to Sydney for Mardi Gras in 2010. Travel dates February 23 and return March 3rd. It seems like LAX will upgrade easier than SFO with a SWU. Any experiences with this? SFO would be easier because my traveling partner lives in SFO, and I want to book our tickets on same PNR because of my status. Thoughts? |
Don't have an answer on SFO vs LAX upgrades but wanted to comment on the "same PNR because of my status."
This is requires starting from the same airport, so since it appears you are out of DEN and the companion is out of SFO, at least one will need to fly a segment not on the PNR. Given that it seems starting in either airport is still an option. The is much discussion on FT about the problems/benefits of upgrade clearing multiple passenger PNRs -- plus and minus -- many discussions http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...tinerarys.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...e-one-pnr.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...tin-w-nf1.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...-same-pnr.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...ravellers.html http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...e-pnr-two.html If a reason for being on same PNR is to transfer your status for upgrade priority, your companion upgrade priority will be fine, 1 or 2 PNRs -- everyone using SWUs goes on the PA list regardless of status before DM, and every one is handle after DM based on their individual status. The status of other folks on the PNR has no impact. Now their are other reasons for being on same PNR -- irops, waiver of luggage fees, .. but upgrades does not appear to be one. |
Wine Country UA - Thanks so much for your help!!
I'm a relative newbie to all this stuff and would love it if you could clarify to me exactly what you mean by this paragraph? Do you mean that If two us are on the same PNR and I am a 1K and my companion is a Premier, then my status doesn't move us up on the list? I'm a little confused and would love to NOT have to make a separate ticket DEN-LAX or DEN-SFO or even worse DEN-SFO (pick up my companion) and then SF0-LAX-SYD-LAX-SFO-DEN. Your information is very helpful and I thank all of you! (As do most of my friends who love all the advice on here) Kevin
Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
(Post 12396175)
If a reason for being on same PNR is to transfer your status for upgrade priority, your companion upgrade priority will be fine, 1 or 2 PNRs -- everyone using SWUs goes on the PA list regardless of status before DM, and every one is handle after DM based on their individual status. The status of other folks on the PNR has no impact. Now their are other reasons for being on same PNR -- irops, waiver of luggage fees, .. but upgrades does not appear to be one. |
I just read this thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...x-one-pnr.html and now think I understand! Thanks so much as now I've just saved a bunch of time and money by not having to book a separate ticket! I'm doing two PNR's with my SWU's. Thanks |
You cannot have two passengers starting in two different places on 1 PNR. You can either have:
PNR A: 1 Passenger DEN-SYD PNR B: 1 Passenger SFO-SYD or PNR A: 1 Passenger DEN-SFO PNR B: 2 passengers SFO-SYD In the end, it really wouldn't matter, because FT believes that all upgrade requests go on to a FIFO waitlist if they cannot be confirmed in advance. Once the flight is at the gate (Departure Management) all waitlisted upgrades then get re-arranged depending on status, and again, the PNR's wouldn't matter. |
Thanks so much!
If you are at the GATE...Will they upgrade on PAX on the PNR and NOT the other? Also My companion will be in the last month of his Premier Exec..(end of February 2010) They will still accord him him Premier Exec status correct? |
Originally Posted by boulderflyer21
(Post 12396230)
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Do you mean that If two us are on the same PNR and I am a 1K and my companion is a Premier, then my status doesn't move us up on the list? ...
Originally Posted by boulderflyer21
(Post 12396291)
I just read this thread
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...x-one-pnr.html and now think I understand! Thanks so much as now I've just saved a bunch of time and money by not having to book a separate ticket! I'm doing two PNR's with my SWU's. Thanks and you will need to watch out for your companion for irops, equipment changes, .. the status passenger will be handled sooner / better than the non-status on a separate PNR. But the trade-off is the likelihood of upgrade clearing does seem to be better. Note-- you will be able to guest your companion for priority boarding / security / E+ .... even if on separate PNRs
Originally Posted by boulderflyer21
(Post 12396369)
Thanks so much!
If you are at the GATE...Will they upgrade on PAX on the PNR and NOT the other? ...
Originally Posted by boulderflyer21
(Post 12396369)
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Also My companion will be in the last month of his Premier Exec..(end of February 2010) They will still accord him him Premier Exec status correct? |
Yes, they will upgrade one and not the other on the same PNR only when the flight is under departure management.
Some bad news is, I believe UA changed when expiration of status is to the end of January, instead of February as it has been for years. |
Originally Posted by UAX_Brasilia
(Post 12396391)
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Some bad news is, I believe UA changed when expiration of status is to the end of January, instead of February as it has been for years. |
To answer the OP question about ease of upgrades through SFO or LAX, my experience is that LAX flights are easier to clear.
However. Remember that Mardi Gras attracts literally THOUSANDS of GLBT visitors to Sydney and a large number of them will travel either from or through North America. IIRC, Air New Zealand has in past years chartered a Pink Flight from SFO. If they do it again next year, that will relieve some of pressure for space in the premium cabins. I think your chances of an upgrade for Mardi Gras will be the same out of both stations. Is this your first Mardi Gras in Sydney? You'll have a Fabulous time! Tip: Book your accommodation and event tickets early. ^^^ |
I was returning from SYD to SFO on business and was made aware that the flight was oversold due to the Mardi Gras pax returning home. I was 1K, as was my friend, and neither of our SWU's cleared for the flight home. The whole airport was a mess in fact.
In any case, my best luck for upgrades to SYD has definitely been out of SFO flying mid-week. I have been told that LAX carries a lot more of the transcon pax than SFO. In any case the International RCC is far superior in SFO than in LAX. |
I have upgraded a number of times out of SFO and have never had any problem. In fact most of the times I've gone the business class section has been half-full at most. (This was 1-3 years ago, things may be different now as the super-cheap flights fill the planes.) I'm not aware of the situation out of LAX.
-Bruce |
Originally Posted by river_rower
(Post 12397695)
In any case the International RCC is far superior in SFO than in LAX.
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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
(Post 12397818)
Because at SFO you can use the SKL...
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Originally Posted by murphyUA
(Post 12397833)
I prefer the domestic RCC to them both usually.
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