The somewhat big debacle over the Secret Service Agent who was denied boarding due to a variety of said reasons, that was flying to meet President Bush. That passenger would be a PCFA if he carried a firearm, right?

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When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the earth with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there you will always long to return.

- Leonardo da Vinci

Well, since Always Flyin brought up the issue of secrecy, one note did say "NYPD"
The manifest in coach was available for viewing since the FA's were seated doing their bids for an hour or two after the service on a Transcon. The load was light and they had plenty of seats. They put out ice, soft drinks and cups so you could help yourself and read the manifest.

During each of my full fare "premium" transcons flights between SFO and JFK over the last year, I have seen this designation on the onboard manifests nearly every time I have looked. This is a rhetorical question, but is it possible that for some reason they were consistently loading the DM manifests on these flights?

Now that I think about it, I do not recall ever seeing this designation on any other flight. But I have seen some other anomalies over the years, On a flight between PDX and IAD last year, nearly every passenger occupying the front cabin was listed as *Gold, accompanied by no other differentiating MP criteria. Incidentally, the FA on that flight interpreted *Gold to be synonymous with 1K.

I do agree with the stated intention of the United VP, i.e. that the on board manifests really should not contain any information that would enable the FA to distinguish between full fare passengers and upgrades.

I will certainly remember to tell my crew to keep the manifest out of view after reading through this thread.....

When I flew JFK-SFO on a XC award, I remember seeing a XC designation next to my name. FYI the galley FA in C handed me the manifest to look at.

I can't remember a flight on UA where the manifest WASN'T in plain view -- taped up in the F/C galley.

Way to go, mpclaw! Now you did it. Besides Marty, we know you would never purposely look, right?

Whatever the other codes may be (and I've never been able to look at a manifest long enough to make much sense beyond the *G and 100K designations), I would like to see the designation "VSIP" for a few of my fellow passengers: "Very Self-Important Person."

The rest of us need the warning! http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

I was trying to point out in a nice way that there IS some info on there that is not for the public. Who is carrying is one of them. The Capt. and f/a's are to be the only people who know.

I'm sure you know I'm not trying to be a B-i-t-c-h about this, but it's just that not all pax are as nice as you all are (or seem to be).

Come on, guys. I find "manifest peeking" a highly entertaining, entirely harmless sport.

With the seemingly endless service cuts (is it me or is the meal duration close to 1/3 shorter now? Must be the cheesecake-near-the-salami effect), and "Planets of the Apes" in its 6th month of service, we've got to find something to do.

Just let it hang right where it is. http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif

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Manifest not for PAX to see? I think not. On my Dec. flight back from AMS, it was POSTED in the Galley. I stood there and read the whole thing while the FAs were either sleeping or standing around in another galley complaining to each other.

Liz is right. She's too shy too say it, so I will: "Mind your own business".

You know, this whole thread reminds me of a person who gossips about a conversation they overheard that they were never MEANT to be part of.

Professionally, I work in an industry where people pay tens of thousands of dollars for seemingly meaningless information, like who's flying where and when.

Personally, It amazes me that others scumb to level of peeking at the manifest, classless.

Discretion is the better part of valor.

How's that for a diatribe?

Duplo, you are right, I'm trying to be very nice. What a good f/a, lol. When I worked in an office sometimes you would see things out on the boss' desk that looked interesting. You might want to read it just because it is "there". It's not your business, never was, but you just want a peek. Just because it's sitting out doesn't make it right, and the f/a's shouldn't be allowing it either. They might not be thinking about it though.

Yes, I guess I was "snooping" since the Manifest was in the galley and I was waiting for the Lav. The bigger point of my post was that there were no FAs around, like I said, they were either in the back galley complaining to each other or asleep! Great service UAL! I had to get more ice water by myself. Let's face it, the service is zero!

"Personally, It amazes me that others scumb to level of peeking at the manifest, classless."

Then I am classless. Also, I often ask to see it just to be sure they added the appropriate comments after my name. And no, the comments don't read "Classless a$%".