Overview of United's International Routes With New First/Business Class Cabins
After thumbing through the 40-some pages in the new-B744 thread and the countless pages in the B763 thread, it is extremely difficult to find exactly which routes the new a/c is appearing on. Perhaps we can use this thread for posting only the routes the a/cs fly on, instead of discussion/speculation regarding other threads/flight numbers?
I'll start. Please keep in mind this list does not necessarily mean every flight with this flight number will have the new seats -- this is the list of routes the new config has been seen on. I will try to keep this as up to date as possible. The List as per www.suitedreams.united.com (updated by UA in June 2010) Listed by city pair Washington, DC (IAD) and London, United Kingdom (LHR) UA920 (seasonal) UA921 (seasonal) UA922 UA923 Washington, DC (IAD) and Frankfurt, Germany (FRA) UA952 UA953 Washington, DC (IAD) and Zurich, Switzerland (ZRH) UA936 UA937 Washington, DC (IAD) and Geneva, Switzerland (GVA) UA974 UA975 Washington, DC (IAD) and Buenos Aires, Argentina (EZE) UA847 UA846 Washington, DC (IAD) and Moscow, Russia (DME) UA964 UA965 Washington, DC (IAD) and Accra, Ghana UA990 UA991 Chicago, IL (ORD) and London, United Kingdom (LHR) UA958 UA959 UA929 UA928 UA938 UA949 Chicago, IL (ORD) and Hong Kong (HKG) UA895 UA896 Chicago, IL (ORD) and Tokyo, Japan (NRT) UA881 UA882 Chicago, IL (ORD) and Brussels, Belgium (BRU) UA972 UA973 Chicago, IL (ORD) and Rome, Italy (FCO) UA904 UA905 Chicago, IL (ORD) to Frankfurt, Germany (FRA) UA940 (seasonal) UA941 (seasonal) San Francisco, CA (SFO) and Frankfurt, Germany (FRA) UA900 UA901 San Francisco, CA (SFO) and Hong Kong (HKG) UA869 UA862 San Francisco, CA (SFO) and Sydney, Australia (SYD) UA863 UA870 San Francisco, CA (SFO) and Beijing, China (PEK) UA889 UA888 San Francisco, CA (SFO) and Seoul, South Korea (ICN) UA892 UA893 San Francisco, CA (SFO) and Shanghai, China (PVG) UA857 UA858 Los Angeles, CA (LAX) and Sydney, Australia (SYD) UA839 UA840 Los Angeles, CA (LAX) and Tokyo, Japan (NRT) UA891 UA890 Honolulu, HI (HNL) and Tokyo, Japan (NRT) UA879 (seasonal) UA880 (seasonal) Sydney, Australia (SYD) and Melbourne, Australia (MEL) UA839 UA840 Hong Kong (HKG) and Saigon (SGN) UA869 UA862 Tokyo, Japan (NRT) and Bangkok, Thailand (BKK) UA890 UA891 Aircraft cannot be guaranteed until the entire fleet has been converted 21 of 21 B763s converted (International Boeing 767 Fleet Complete) 20 of 24 B744s converted (International Boeing 747 Fleet Complete 1 of 46 B777s converted (to commence after 747 fleet is completed) 46 of 91 aircraft: 51% complete. |
Do you want only confirmed sightings, or routes that UA shows the new aircraft flying in the near future?
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Originally Posted by Lightman7
(Post 9990925)
Do you want only confirmed sightings, or routes that UA shows the new aircraft flying in the near future?
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Originally Posted by Lightman7
(Post 9990925)
Do you want only confirmed sightings, or routes that UA shows the new aircraft flying in the near future?
Once a few more aircraft get reconfig'ed and they start making their way randomly through the system, UA will likely switch all international flights to the new seatmap, as this helps prevent overbooking/overupgrading pax. |
I know it's a 100+ page thread, but this info can be found...
...here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...s+new&page=108
Post #1610 from C5Crewdog includes the following as of July 4: The 2 747s flying (3rd is due out next week) are split between IAD/FRA (916/917) and SFO/FRA (900/901) The 5 767s flying (I believe the 6th is due out next week as well) are flying the following routes with some regularity: ORD/LHR (928/929 and/or 958/949), IAD/FRA (952/953), IAD/ZRH (936/937), IAD/LHR (920/921), and SFO/ORD (134/863). They've also recently flown to GIG/GRU. The new 767s are only flown on the p.s. routing for the first few days before they're deployed on international routes. |
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SFO-NRT UA837 starts new seatmap on July 21 (and doesn't show the old map after that date) NRT-SFO UA 838 starts new seatmap on July 22 And I will voice my opinion that a separate route thread would be welcome to me, rather than fishing through the multiple 747/767/777 threads. |
Originally Posted by cstead
(Post 9990957)
Seatmaps are not indicative of what will actually fly, and I would chalk that under the speculation category.
Once a few more aircraft get reconfig'ed and they start making their way randomly through the system, UA will likely switch all international flights to the new seatmap, as this helps prevent overbooking/overupgrading pax. |
Mebbe the time has come to make this a sticky, like the one covering new aircraft and seats on the SQ Krisfyer subforum?
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Originally Posted by Lightman7
(Post 9991015)
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SFO-NRT UA837 starts new seatmap on July 21 (and doesn't show the old map after that date) NRT-SFO UA 838 starts new seatmap on July 22 United Cargo is usually more accurate about equipment assignments. |
Originally Posted by UnitedF1RST
(Post 9990900)
After thumbing through the 40-some pages in the new-B744 thread and the countless pages in the B763 thread, it is extremely difficult to find exactly which routes the new a/c is appearing on. Perhaps we can use this thread for posting only the routes the a/cs fly on, instead of discussion/speculation regarding other threads/flight numbers?
I'll start. Please keep in mind this list does not necessarily mean every flight with this flight number will have the new seats -- this is the list of routes the new config has been seen on. I will try to keep this as up to date as possible. Routes Currently Operated By B747-400 With New Business & First Class Cabins SFO-FRA - UA900 FRA-SFO - UA901 IAD-FRA - UA916 FRA-IAD - UA917 Routes Currently Operated By B767-300 With New Business & First Class Cabins IAD-FRA - UA952 FRA-IAD - UA953 ORD-LHR - UA958 LHR-ORD - UA929 IAD-ZRH - UA936 ZRH-IAD - UA937 |
Originally Posted by UnitedF1RST
(Post 9991032)
...The point of this thread, though, is to at least have the information in one consolidated place, rather than sifting through over a 1000 posts to find the pertinent information.
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Originally Posted by flyinbob
(Post 9991221)
I like it, but it doesn't seem to account for all (or even most for the 767) the configured aircraft. Where are the rest of the planes flying? :confused:
ORD/LHR 928/929 ORD/LHR 958/949 IAD/FRA 952/953 IAD/ZRH 936/937 IAD/LHR 920/921 |
Hate to rain on your parade, but UA is not LH. (So I'm not certain there's much use for a thread like this.)
When LH does aircraft conversion, and they list on their website which routes have the new [blank] product, they pretty much mean it. I'm quite certain IPP has been to GRU and CDG. It doesn't happen all the time, but it does happen. While UA has tried to keep International Premium Product on the FRA routes at least initally, if they run into a scenario where optimal aircraft utlization means an old skool C/F plane goes to FRA and IPP goes elsewhere, they'll do it. |
Originally Posted by UNITED959
(Post 9991362)
While UA has tried to keep International Premium Product on the FRA routes at least initally, if they run into a scenario where optimal aircraft utlization means an old skool C/F plane goes to FRA and IPP goes elsewhere, they'll do it. |
Originally Posted by lexdevil
(Post 9991334)
They're covered in the post I copied above. 5 767 planes, 5 transatlantic RTs, plus the occasional domestic flight to/from ORD. The two 747s are covered in first post above.
ORD/LHR 928/929 ORD/LHR 958/949 IAD/FRA 952/953 IAD/ZRH 936/937 IAD/LHR 920/921 |
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