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-   -   United concourse in DEN is of the DEVIL (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/united-mileage-plus-pre-merger/722095-united-concourse-den-devil.html)

HonestABE Aug 6, 2007 12:00 am
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeBU (Post 8181152)
I never noticed the distances being a problem, but I sure did hate the fact that for being among the country's newest airport terminals,
1. There are next to no electrical outlets to be found
2. There isn't enough seating -- usually have to sit against the side of the moving walkway
3. Trains are not frequent enough, and seemed to randomly try to close doors before people had disembarked, let alone embarked
4. The only food past 10PM is serve inside the smoking lounge. Even that closes before the redeyes board.
I transit through DEN a couple times a year, and go to Denver once a year for an annual meeting. When it's my destination, I always rent a car, and find that to be a rather straightforward process. Getting to and from the city is no big deal, either.

It can be a long walk from the SkyWest UX gates to the mainline gates (as I discovered in June), but the B Terminal is light, airy and inviting.

I'd rather hike from B90 to B25 at DEN than from, say, D11 to C3 at IAD any day of the week/month/year/millennium.

BTW, there are electrical outlets galore at the UX gates.

thecompdude Aug 6, 2007 12:18 am
DEN is a smartly designed airport with lots of room for future expansion.
Also, it is one of the few airports with 6 runways ...

From Wikipedia

Quote:
in 2006 it served almost 50,000,000 passengers. Denver is also the busiest and largest airport in the US without any non-stop service to and from Asia. DIA was voted the 2005 Best Airport in North America by readers of Business Traveler Magazine and was named America's best run Airport by Time Magazine in 2002[3].
....
With the construction of DIA, Denver was determined to build an airport that could be easily expanded over the next 50 years to eliminate many of the problems that had plagued Stapleton International Airport. This was achieved by designing an easily expandable midfield terminal and concourses, creating one of the most efficient airfields in the world.

braslvr Aug 6, 2007 12:40 am
Quote:
Originally Posted by cblaisd (Post 8181175)
Count me as another one who enjoys DEN B very much.

You can get decent last-minute Christmas gifts there :D The food choices are not-bad. I can always find a place upstairs to sit and get some work done or read. The restrooms are decent. There's an Auntie Anne's pretzel place where I can get an almond pretzel with caramel dip. The RCC staff has always been very nice to me there. Even at the busiest time of the day, you are not clotted in with hordes of humanity. There are moving sidewalks ("Please look down!").

None of these things are true at ORD.



I always try to schedule a minimum of 90 minutes for a connection; 2 hours is better. The stress-o-meter is lower, and I can enjoy the concourse in a more leisurely way.

Some think I'm odd in this....

I agree with every word you wrote. DEN is by far my favorite (large) US airport, and your connection times make perfect sense to me. This said after it took me over 13 hours today to get from CIC to SAN. SFO-Socal was a meltdown today.

mlasser Aug 6, 2007 12:43 am
Quote:
Originally Posted by ricosuave (Post 8177421)
Three times in the last 8 weeks, I have had to literally run anywhere from 40 to 50 gates to make (or usually miss) my connection. Who designed that concourse? Were they going for a Guiness world record for the longest uninterupted piece of carpet? The George Jetson moving sidewalks are nice, but there's 50 yards in between each one (I have had to run on those as well, trying hard not to knock over other folks).

When flying west of the Mississippi (and I have a choice of carriers), I don't think I will be flying United anymore - if I have to transfer in DEN. Until they devise some sort of tram or other transportation besides my two feet. This past week I was on my way to a funeral, and sweat clean through my suit. On the next flight, the A/C was not working!

Maybe we can make sure that whoever designed DEN doesn't get more work designing airport terminals. Maybe he could only afford a ruler, not a protractor to be able to draw ANGLES instead of STRAIGHT LINES!

(More info on me - I do workout 4-5 times a week, so it's not that I'm too soft for such a task - I just don't think it's a wise design)
Huh. You're obviously not a UA FF. Dulles has stretches about as long in the C and D terminals with no moving sidewalks at all. Actually neither does ORD right?

IAH has some of the longest walks I've encountered. Much longer then DEN. Also no moving sidewalks at ATL and the time it takes to get from Terminal D to baggage claim is brutal.

LAX and SFO have shorter walks generally, but both require buses or trains to move b/w terminals.

I think DEN is actually pretty well designed. I wish you could opt to walk b/w C and B and the main terminal, but otherwise not bad.

United737522 Aug 6, 2007 12:48 am
It really sucks for people travelling on UX and Ted, they are opposite ends and then well, it is UX and Ted, it doesn't get much worse than that.

mlasser Aug 6, 2007 12:52 am
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Originally Posted by United737522 (Post 8181350)
It really sucks for people travelling on UX and Ted, they are opposite ends and then well, it is UX and Ted, it doesn't get much worse than that.
They're flying UX and TED. Life sucked for them well before getting to DEN.

cblaisd Aug 6, 2007 1:46 am
Quote:
Originally Posted by braslvr (Post 8181327)
I agree with every word you wrote. DEN is by far my favorite (large) US airport, and your connection times make perfect sense to me.
Thank you. :)

Quote:
This said after it took me over 13 hours today to get from CIC to SAN. SFO-Socal was a meltdown today.
Major ugh. It once took me that long to go SAN-SMF.

But I was on a segment run, took two bumps, and made $700 in travel credits.

VPescado Aug 6, 2007 4:14 am
Quote:
Originally Posted by flyinryan (Post 8177702)
I have three words for everybody:
I
A
D
You forgot about the moving sidewalks. While DEN has two lanes of moving sidewalks in each direction, IAD has none. And to make things worse, IAD C/D used to have moving sidewalks, but they were removed in the last round of renovations. What kind of enhancement was that?

Flyer420 Aug 6, 2007 6:27 am
NO HUB AIRPORT IS PERFECT, but DEN offers the best possibilities for connections, and, apart from those pesky gates in the A concourse, it is all doable. All I could think about when reading the OP was-has the OP been through IAD? Low ceiling, crowded, noisy, AC-optional... AND while I have encountered a few CSR and GA folks at DEN who need personality transplants, it is overall a very good terminal station team. I just never expect much at IAD--I really don't know if it is the team or the dehumanizing conditions. At least they did away with Terminal G.

Flyer 420
just now in Kuala Lumpur--a very good airport and a great city!!!

UNITEDBILL Aug 6, 2007 8:01 am
Missed some points
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeBU (Post 8181152)
I never noticed the distances being a problem, but I sure did hate the fact that for being among the country's newest airport terminals,
1. There are next to no electrical outlets to be found
2. There isn't enough seating -- usually have to sit against the side of the moving walkway
3. Trains are not frequent enough, and seemed to randomly try to close doors before people had disembarked, let alone embarked
4. The only food past 10PM is serve inside the smoking lounge. Even that closes before the redeyes board.
Thanks, I missed those points and the leak concourse roofs. I think they finally reprogramed the trains to allow more boarding time, it seems that way and the announcements have been changed.

Maybe it better that ORD which is much older - how about comparing it to HKG or MUC which are much more current. At least in the same decade.

kevinsac Aug 6, 2007 8:23 am
If you have a reasonable schedule, then Denver is not bad. But, if your connections are tight, Murphy's law dictates that your connections are at opposite ends of the terminal.....yet that happens at any airport.

Quote:
Originally Posted by worldtrav (Post 8178274)
I think you mean 3 letters, not words.
I thought he was being creative. I highlighted the letters, expecting to find the words "hidden," written in white! ;)

paytonc Aug 6, 2007 9:25 am
DEN B was 0.62 miles from end to end, at least before the new UX concourse. 0.5 mi. = 10 minute walk for average person.

Although people don't always use DEN's four-track walkways properly (stand on right), they're usually happy to move aside as well. IAD, LAX, and ORD B conspicuously lack moving walkways

gre Aug 6, 2007 9:30 am
I find DEN kind of boring. I'd have thought that as a newer airport the designers could have come up with somethig more interesting than "Big Circus Tent on the Prairie".

lawchild Aug 6, 2007 9:30 am
Quote:
Originally Posted by avanpelt (Post 8178482)
Ahhhh, but don't you mean:
International
Airport
Dungeon

? ;)
More like
Infernal
Avian
Dungeon

Think bird flu and you'll be on the right track...

woodway Aug 6, 2007 9:47 am
Quote:
Originally Posted by DenverBrian (Post 8180997)
If you prefer, say, ORD, where a connection from B concourse to C concourse is quite possible - and good luck making that in 30 minutes or less - then be my guest. Despite its flaws, it's MY airport, and you can stop bashing it any old time. :D:D:D
Actually, it's the connection from the B gates out to UX at the F gates that kills me :)

Of all the UA hubs, I find transitioning through DEN to be pretty easy. IAD is by far the worst, ORD would be next worst in my book, SFO and LAX are fairly easy (plus SFO has the best bookstore of all the UA hubs ^).


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