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worldtravel Dec 18, 2006 7:12 pm

Chase Changes Mileage Plus Visa Terms [Merged Threads]
 
My wife received an additional United Visa card and paid $140 annual fee few weeks ago. Today she received a letter from Chase indicating that she will not get any bonus miles because she already has another Visa card. It seems they are finally enforcing the rule.

amartin1979 Dec 18, 2006 7:19 pm

too late to cancel?

shoodawg Dec 18, 2006 7:19 pm

This is not a good development. OP, you are kidding, yes?

CPMaverick Dec 18, 2006 7:24 pm

Hmmm, well my first statement closes on a new UA Visa Dec 20th, I'll see what happens.

robb Dec 18, 2006 7:25 pm

I think it's ridiculous to have given out multiple bonuses like this, but it's not fair for Chase/United to have it both ways. Either give out one set of bonus miles and continue to comp all the cards or charge for all the additional cards, but keep giving out bonus miles.

But certainly don't send me a pre-approved application twice a month for which you want to charge me and will give me nothing extra in return.

shoodawg Dec 18, 2006 7:28 pm


Originally Posted by robb (Post 6868925)
I think it's ridiculous to have given out multiple bonuses like this, but it's not fair for Chase/United to have it both ways. Either give out one set of bonus miles and continue to comp all the cards or charge for all the additional cards, but keep giving out bonus miles.

But certainly don't send me a pre-approved application twice a month for which you want to charge me and will give me nothing extra in return.

The direct mail is exactly why I just signed up for two more this weekend!

Miles Heighway Dec 18, 2006 7:33 pm

They finally wised up :(.

But, don't cancel, just convert it to the no-fee card.

carl92103 Dec 18, 2006 7:50 pm

Does this only apply to the sign up bonus? Will you be able to still get bonus EQM's on each card you have?

Noticing a lot of negative mile adjustments on my statements for the past few months. When inquiring they tell me they are not giving double miles in certain categories. I think it is unfair that they decide not to pay bonus miles on certain things and then take them away from you. Chase thinks they can change the rules when they want.

MrAOK Dec 18, 2006 8:45 pm

does she get no bonus miles or only the 5,000 eqms? I would think they would still give the eqms

MrAOK Dec 18, 2006 8:58 pm

post duplicated previous message

aisleorwindow Dec 18, 2006 9:09 pm

Major bummer :(

Anyone else received this letter?

mahasamatman Dec 18, 2006 9:24 pm

Looks like my prophecy came true.

http://flyertalk.com/forum/showthrea...27#post6800071

fzwinter Dec 18, 2006 10:52 pm

This is bad news indeed. I activated four cards last year - 100,000 RDMs, 20K EQMs, and 4 1,000 mi U/G certs for $580. Looks like I actually have to fly more than 25K EQMs to make 1P for 2008 :td:

Fotoav8r Dec 18, 2006 10:54 pm

We all knew it was only a matter of time. It was great while it lasted.

amartin1979 Dec 18, 2006 10:58 pm

What about if you cancel all your existing Chase cards and reapply? Would this get you the bonus miles?

shoodawg Dec 19, 2006 4:36 am


Originally Posted by amartin1979 (Post 6869807)
What about if you cancel all your existing Chase cards and reapply? Would this get you the bonus miles?

There really is only one way to find out if this would work!!

im-headed-west Dec 19, 2006 5:45 am

No big surprise ... I've been sucking off the Chase, BankOne, First whatever, ... for several years ... big time. ^

Guess I gotta do an extra 15K EQM to get to 1K in 07 :(

kb1992 Dec 19, 2006 6:02 am


Originally Posted by amartin1979 (Post 6869807)
What about if you cancel all your existing Chase cards and reapply? Would this get you the bonus miles?

I cancelled all my Chase cards last week.

Let me apply for a new card now and test the water. :rolleyes:

I'll report back. ;) ;)

kb1992 Dec 19, 2006 6:03 am

Let me add, you only get bonus miles (first use bonus) after you used the card. Thus $140 fee is not refundable.

However since I am 1K, maybe I don't need to pay the fee.

worldtravel Dec 19, 2006 6:14 am


Originally Posted by MrAOK (Post 6869283)
does she get no bonus miles or only the 5,000 eqms? I would think they would still give the eqms

She did get the 5000 eqms. No bonus miles.

chitownflyer Dec 19, 2006 8:14 am

Chase Changes Mileage Plus Visa Terms
 
Here is the 411 on some changes to the Chase Mileage Plus Visa cards I learned about when speaking to an informed CSR.

For an account opened after November 1, 2006, it must stay open a year, or Chase will take back all of the bonus miles from your initial sign up offer. I was told you should get a letter in the mail detailing this change.

When an account was opened before September 1, 2006, it is eligible for waiving of the fee for 1Ks. If opened after September 1 2006, then Chase will only credit $60 of the $140 fee.

kb1992 Dec 19, 2006 8:23 am

oh well
 
Good time is over now. ;) ;)

itsme Dec 19, 2006 8:56 am


Originally Posted by chitownflyer (Post 6871145)
Here is the 411 on some changes to the Chase Mileage Plus Visa cards I learned about when speaking to an informed CSR.

For an account opened after November 1, 2006, it must stay open a year, or Chase will take back all of the bonus miles from your initial sign up offer. I was told you should get a letter in the mail detailing this change.

When an account was opened before September 1, 2006, it is eligible for waiving of the fee for 1Ks. If opened after September 1 2006, then Chase will only credit $60 of the $140 fee.

Are you saying that that those 1Ks who have not availed themselves of this benefit before now, will henceforth receive only $60 off the $140 annual fee? And the same for those who haven't been 1Ks before now, but who become 1Ks and have or get the card, they will see only a $60 discount for being 1Ks?
(My account was opened before 9/1/06, but I did not reach 1K until later that month. They did waive the full $140 for me after first telling me that I would have to wait until next year to be credited rather than now.)

itsme Dec 19, 2006 8:59 am


Originally Posted by chitownflyer (Post 6871145)
Here is the 411 on some changes to the Chase Mileage Plus Visa cards I learned about when speaking to an informed CSR.

For an account opened after November 1, 2006, it must stay open a year, or Chase will take back all of the bonus miles from your initial sign up offer. I was told you should get a letter in the mail detailing this change.

When an account was opened before September 1, 2006, it is eligible for waiving of the fee for 1Ks. If opened after September 1 2006, then Chase will only credit $60 of the $140 fee.

Are you saying that that those 1Ks who have not availed themselves of this benefit before now, will henceforth receive only $60 off the $140 annual fee? And the same for those who haven't been 1Ks before now, but who become 1Ks and have or get the card, they will see only a $60 discount for being 1Ks?(My account was opened before 9/1/06, but I did not reach 1K until later that month. They did waive the full $140 for me after first telling me that I would have to wait until next year to be credited rather than now.)

Do the websites, UA MP's 1K one and/or Chase's, currently reflect such a change?

camachinist Dec 19, 2006 9:44 am

It'll be interesting to see how they handle two things:

1. Legacy 1K MP VISA holders who have multiple cards applied for before the threshold date.

2. MP VISA holders of single and multiple cards who become 1K after the threshold date.

I've had a signature VISA for about 5 years now and have had the platinum VISA since June 2005. I'll be 1K for the first time the end of this month and will report back with my experiences...

Pat

jjgollum Dec 19, 2006 10:04 am

I'm trying to get this fee waived right now and it is a huge pain in the ....

richarddd Dec 19, 2006 10:50 am

Does this mean you have to pay the fee to get the bonus miles?

brarob1 Dec 19, 2006 12:38 pm

I got the following letter in the mail yesterday for my new United Platinum card which had 5000 EQM/25k bonus miles with first purchase. This is my sixth card with them:

"You recently opened a new Mileage Plus Visa Account, which offered bonus miles after completing your first purchase using your new card. The terms and conditions specify that the bonus-mile offer is available only to new cardmembers. Our records indicate you have taken advantage of this offer in the past . . . your account is not eligible to receive bonus miles associated with this card."

I DID receive the 5000 EQM when the first statement closed, but apparently will not be getting the bonus miles.

Glumech Dec 19, 2006 12:40 pm


Originally Posted by chitownflyer (Post 6871145)
Here is the 411 on some changes to the Chase Mileage Plus Visa cards I learned about when speaking to an informed CSR.

For an account opened after November 1, 2006, it must stay open a year, or Chase will take back all of the bonus miles from your initial sign up offer. I was told you should get a letter in the mail detailing this change.

When an account was opened before September 1, 2006, it is eligible for waiving of the fee for 1Ks. If opened after September 1 2006, then Chase will only credit $60 of the $140 fee.

What if you transfer the miles out as soon as they post?

Glumech Dec 19, 2006 12:50 pm


Originally Posted by chitownflyer (Post 6871145)
Here is the 411 on some changes to the Chase Mileage Plus Visa cards I learned about when speaking to an informed CSR.

For an account opened after November 1, 2006, it must stay open a year, or Chase will take back all of the bonus miles from your initial sign up offer. I was told you should get a letter in the mail detailing this change.

When an account was opened before September 1, 2006, it is eligible for waiving of the fee for 1Ks. If opened after September 1 2006, then Chase will only credit $60 of the $140 fee.

What if you transfer the miles out as soon as they post?

Lori_Q Dec 19, 2006 1:05 pm

Oops - Previously I stated that I only got my 5,000 EQMs for the Platinum card, but not the promised 25k EQMs. I just looked at my Mileage Plus statement and discovered that the 25k RDMs were deposited on December 7. ^

So I may not cancel my cards yet, but I'm definitely going to stop revolving my cards for bonus RDMs.

anc-ord772 Dec 19, 2006 1:10 pm


Originally Posted by kb1992 (Post 6870641)
I cancelled all my Chase cards last week.

Let me apply for a new card now and test the water. :rolleyes:

I'll report back. ;) ;)

Please do, I only have one chase visa and can easily cancel and open a new one for the 25K RDM.

c.l.i.a Dec 19, 2006 1:15 pm


Originally Posted by chitownflyer (Post 6871145)
When an account was opened before September 1, 2006, it is eligible for waiving of the fee for 1Ks. If opened after September 1 2006, then Chase will only credit $60 of the $140 fee.

This may not be true - many FT'ers reported that they get complete fee waived, and I just confirmed this by myself.
Please check this thread for more info. I posted my email communications with Chase there as well

itsme Dec 19, 2006 1:25 pm


Originally Posted by camachinist (Post 6871629)
...Legacy 1K MP VISA holders...

Platinum Visa before 9/1/06, 1K for first time after 9/1/06. Does that make me one of those "legacy" types or not?

worldtravel Dec 19, 2006 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by amartin1979 (Post 6868893)
too late to cancel?

Since she already used the card they would not cancel the card and refund the $140 fee. They offered to replace this card with a no fee card and refund the $140. So we went for that option. Of course we will not use this new card. I was also told, Chase started enforcing the rule of no bonus miles because United asked them to do so.

UA Fan Dec 19, 2006 1:54 pm

Is this only for the platinum cards? or also for regular and business cards that offer 20K bonus?

zzyzx Dec 19, 2006 2:08 pm

My friend wanted to cancel his Visa,which was said free of annual fee for first year and only got the response from CSR that if he cancels the card, he will lose the bonus 20k miles

He has had this card for 8 months already

fzwinter Dec 19, 2006 2:15 pm

It's interesting that Chase and UAL are finally putting a stop to this. Last year, when receiving one of my 4 MP Plat Visas, I got a call from Chase explaining that, since I already had other cards, that my credit limit for the new card would be lower. No big deal for me as I only planned to make one purchase on it, but it did illustrate that Chase was well aware of folks having multiple cards but chose not to do anything else at the time. I wonder what has caused this change in policy?

robb Dec 19, 2006 2:27 pm


Originally Posted by zzyzx (Post 6873255)
My friend wanted to cancel his Visa,which was said free annual fee for first year and only got the response from CSR that if he cancels the card, he will lose the bonus 20k miles

I think that's always been the case. You have to keep the card open for a certain period of time or lose the bonus miles.

yyliu88 Dec 19, 2006 3:04 pm

When did u apply the card?




Originally Posted by brarob1 (Post 6872717)
I got the following letter in the mail yesterday for my new United Platinum card which had 5000 EQM/25k bonus miles with first purchase. This is my sixth card with them:

"You recently opened a new Mileage Plus Visa Account, which offered bonus miles after completing your first purchase using your new card. The terms and conditions specify that the bonus-mile offer is available only to new cardmembers. Our records indicate you have taken advantage of this offer in the past . . . your account is not eligible to receive bonus miles associated with this card."

I DID receive the 5000 EQM when the first statement closed, but apparently will not be getting the bonus miles.



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