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aidsactivist Sep 27, 2004 2:52 am

Air China-United codeshare
 
Hi folks! I understand that United currently has an agreement with Air China in which MP miles can be accrued on Air China-operated flights with a United codeshare flight number. Does anyone know where I can find a list of such flights? I'm presently booked on CA 4105, departing from Chengdu at 1620 and arriving into Beijing at 1835, next month. Despite the relatively short distance (and United's current financial situation), it's always nice to earn a bit of MP miles, so I'm wondering whether that sector is codeshared with United. Thanks in advance for your reply!

transpac Sep 27, 2004 7:24 am

There is a master list of all UA Flight numbers which shows who operates the flights. The old paper timetable used to have this information, and the PDF version has a list but it is outdated.

You can however determine if UA codeshares your flight(s) by doing a sample booking at ual.com, or by checking the PDF or electronic timetables.

http://www.united.com/page/middlepag...3,1891,00.html

My guess is that UA does not codeshare this flight. For those flights that UA does codeshare, you would have to ticket the UA codeshare in order to get mileage credit.

izzik Sep 27, 2004 8:09 am

how does it work in reverse? that is, flights with air china flt no. but operated by ua?

gachen Sep 27, 2004 10:49 am


Originally Posted by transpac
For those flights that UA does codeshare, you would have to ticket the UA codeshare in order to get mileage credit.

Can anybody confirm this? It is not mentioned in UA's website that you have to hold a UA ticket to get the miles. I know for AA and MU agreement, you do need to have an AA ticket to get AA miles for trans pacific flights.

transpac Sep 27, 2004 11:46 am

http://www.united.com/page/article/0,1360,50614,00.html

"You may earn Mileage Plus miles on Air China-operated flights with a United code-share number. This includes flights within China and from China to Los Angeles, New York JFK and San Francisco. Additional code-share flights will be announced over the coming months. Simply present your Mileage Plus number when making reservations on these flights and you can earn:"

djohn125 Sep 27, 2004 12:52 pm


Originally Posted by aidsactivist
Hi folks! I understand that United currently has an agreement with Air China in which MP miles can be accrued on Air China-operated flights with a United codeshare flight number. Does anyone know where I can find a list of such flights? I'm presently booked on CA 4105, departing from Chengdu at 1620 and arriving into Beijing at 1835, next month. Despite the relatively short distance (and United's current financial situation), it's always nice to earn a bit of MP miles, so I'm wondering whether that sector is codeshared with United. Thanks in advance for your reply!


I recently took a trip to China on Air China. My flights between Beijing and Shanghai on Air China did not have United codeshare numbers and I WAS credited with the miles. see below (recently credited to my UA account):

08-Aug-04 CA 0984 K Class LAX to PEK 6,228 0 6,228
12-Aug-04 CA 1517 K Class PEK to SHA 676 0 676
15-Aug-04 CA 1558 K Class SHA to PEK 676 0 676
15-Aug-04 CA 0983 K Class PEK to LAX 6,228 0 6,228

IN FACT: All of my ticketing was done through Air China. My flights from LAX to PEK and back were on Air China flight numbers (no mention of UA codeshare.)

ALSO: The UA website said I would only get 70% miles for economy tickets on Air China, but I was credited 100%...

gachen Sep 27, 2004 2:24 pm

To djohn125 Do you earn EQM on these flights?

Arthurrs Sep 27, 2004 2:39 pm


Originally Posted by gachen
To djohn125 Do you earn EQM on these flights?

I didn't when I flew from SFO to PEK earlier this year on an Air China flight that was a United codeshare. Peculiar that the route Air China took was about 100 miles further than the equivalent United metal route!

djohn125 Sep 27, 2004 4:14 pm


Originally Posted by gachen
To djohn125 Do you earn EQM on these flights?

No I didn't...

gachen Sep 27, 2004 5:01 pm

Thanks for share the information.

WingOfTheBat Sep 28, 2004 12:23 pm


Originally Posted by izzik
how does it work in reverse? that is, flights with air china flt no. but operated by ua?

No, it doesn't. And if you have a CA ticket, you're actually not *supposed* to get the miles either. People at the CA counter will tell you you'll get miles for *any* flight with them in MP, but that's totally untrue, as the links provided show clearly. Apparently the MP people get a ton of calls on this, and not everyone there is fully abreast of the situation, but any service director will explain it clearly if you're confused by anything a CSR says or get two diff stories from two diff people.

aidsactivist Sep 28, 2004 11:42 pm

Xie xie / Thanks
 

Originally Posted by transpac
There is a master list of all UA Flight numbers which shows who operates the flights. The old paper timetable used to have this information, and the PDF version has a list but it is outdated.

You can however determine if UA codeshares your flight(s) by doing a sample booking at ual.com, or by checking the PDF or electronic timetables.

http://www.united.com/page/middlepag...3,1891,00.html

My guess is that UA does not codeshare this flight. For those flights that UA does codeshare, you would have to ticket the UA codeshare in order to get mileage credit.

Before posting the original message, I did a sample booking on the UA website, but the city pairs were not recognised. I also did a sample booking on Travelocity, and it listed several Air China and Hainan Airlines flights during the day, but not mine in particular. It is possible that the flight on which I am booked is full because I noticed that the fare basis code begins with "Y", most likely denoting full fare economy class. I suppose that it never hurts to present the MP card at check-in, as one individual in this thread received mileage credit for an Air China ticket on Air China-operated flights with Air China flight numbers.

A warm xie xie and thanks to all who have responded!

joannapv Sep 30, 2004 5:20 pm

I am a newbie
 
how is air china? after going round and round with amex 2 for 1 tixs they sais I can fly AC out of Lax to sydney and back from singapore to lax - good airline??? bus class by the way

travelinmanS Sep 30, 2004 5:52 pm


Originally Posted by joannapv
how is air china? after going round and round with amex 2 for 1 tixs they sais I can fly AC out of Lax to sydney and back from singapore to lax - good airline??? bus class by the way


You'll get there...thats about it!

Entertainment is worse than UA, food is worse, service is better though. The biggest bummer is the C class seat....its got terrible pitch and recline.

Try and get AMEX to spring for another carrier!

izzik Nov 2, 2004 9:53 am

I just flew UA metal with US flight numbers.. and they were posted as UA flight numbers to my MP account.. so I wonder if I would see the same result with UA metal / Air China flight numbers as well.. ?


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