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UA^PX Jul 24, 2003 6:45 am

Refundable or Not?
 
I am looking at the rules for a ticket in H class and I don't really understand if it means that it is refundable or not if I cancel. Can anybody explain. Here is the rule from united site:

16. PENALTIES
UNLESS OTHERWISE SPECIFIED

CANCELLATIONS

BEFORE DEPARTURE
CHARGE CAD 300.00 FOR CANCEL/NO-SHOW/REFUND.
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
WAIVED FOR UPGRADE TO HIGHER FARE/DEATH OF PASSENGER
OR FAMILY MEMBER.
NOTE -
THE CHARGE ABOVE APPLIES BEFORE THE TICKETING
DEADLINE.
IN THE EVENT OF UPGRADE THE NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT
REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE.

AFTER DEPARTURE
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
WAIVED FOR UPGRADE TO HIGHER FARE/DEATH OF PASSENGER
OR FAMILY MEMBER.
NOTE -
THE CHARGE ABOVE APPLIES AFTER THE TICKETING
DEADLINE.
THE NON-REFUNDABLE AMOUNT MAY BE USED AS CREDIT
TOWARDS PAYMENT OF A HIGHER APPLICABLE NORMAL OR
EXCURSION FARE. THE ORIGINAL NON-REFUNDABLE
AMOUNT REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE.

NOTE -
AFTER DEADLINE -
OUTBOUND - CHANGES NOT PERMITTED.

INBOUND -
FOR TICKETING ON/AFTER 01JAN 99
CHANGES

BEFORE DEPARTURE
CHARGE CAD 200.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
WAIVED FOR UPGRADE TO HIGHER FARE.
NOTE -
ABOVE PENALTY APPLIES BEFORE DEADLINE.
TRANSACTION MUST BE MADE NO LATER THAN THE DAY OF
THE FLIGHT BEING CHANGED.
-----------------------------------
BEFORE DEPARTURE AND AFTER DEADLINE--OUTBOUND
PORTION OF PRICING UNIT NOT PERMITTED.
-----------------------------------

OUTBOUND -
FOR TICKETING ON/AFTER 01JAN 99
CHANGES

BEFORE DEPARTURE
CHARGE USD 200.00 FOR REISSUE/REVALIDATION.
CHILD/INFANT DISCOUNTS APPLY.
WAIVED FOR UPGRADE TO HIGHER FARE.
NOTE -
THE ABOVE CHARGE APPLIES BEFORE DEADLINE.
TRANSACTION MUST BE MADE NO LATER THAN THE DAY
OF THE FLIGHT BEING CHANGED.


Thanks.

Starman Jul 24, 2003 7:00 am

I'm only a partial ticket pundit, but it looks to be you can cancel prior to departure and get a refund, minus $300 CDN. A better deal, as with most UA international tickets, is to trade it for any other UA ticket, int'l or domestic, any routing, that has a base fare of $1 more than the untaxed fare of the old ticket - then there is no penalty at all. And finally, if you are convinced you will never fly UA again, make the trade up for a slightly higher fare on a routing where there is very little service, e.g., IAD-STT (2 flights per week), 330 days out, wait for a time change in the schedule, and then phone for a full refund with no penalty due to the schedule change. (But the latter strategy could be the subject of an entire new thread!).

seawolf Jul 24, 2003 12:23 pm

What's the market and fare basis?

This is most likely a non-ref fare. A fare can be non-refundable and still have a cancellation of $300.


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