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Originally Posted by st530
(Post 37224735)
Sorry about your bad experience. While UA staff training does indeed leave a lot to be desired, I don't find IAH to be materially better or worse in this respect than other hubs. Of course, even otherwise good, well-trained agents can have a bad day or interaction (not that that helps the subject of the bad interaction). One thing I'm generally curious about though: did you really have to wait one full hour for a gate, or did perhaps the crummy crew on the inbound make the wait seem longer than actual? In literally hundreds and hundreds of arrivals at IAH, I don't think I've never had to wait more than 15 minutes tops for a gate (barring the extremely rare post-landing thunder-related ground stop).
It was almost exactly an hour. I think we landed right as they were getting back from the fire alarm at Willis Tower. The plane at our gate prob couldn’t be dispatched. I was ok (as one could be) w the hour wait as my flight to ICT was showing 1.5 hours delayed. I’m sure some people with tighter connections were not doing as well. We landed at 645 gate at 745 and my flight left at 945. 2 full hours - no bag transfer. |
Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
(Post 37225132)
As the OP reported they did
Stood there for prob 3-4 min before being acknowledged. I could see her typing on her phone. If she was helping a customer they were the invisible kind. And to include the word “quick” in there as if she didn’t have time for me was pretty off putting. |
Originally Posted by allergictocoach
(Post 37225476)
Stood there for prob 3-4 min before being acknowledged. I could see her typing on her phone. If she was helping a customer they were the invisible kind.
And to include the word “quick” in there as if she didn’t have time for me was pretty off putting. |
Sad to read. I have connected through IAH multiple times, the last being 2022, and have always had friendly and helpful employees. I felt that IAH was one of the nicest UA hubs and that the old CO "work hard, play right" spirit still permeated through IAH. Even with construction and terminal changes/confusion in 2022, the employees couldn't have been nicer.
Hoping this was just a bad day or bad luck/chance and not a reflection on UA IAH going downhill as a whole. |
Originally Posted by fastair
(Post 37225670)
"our phone" is actually a company issued device that has the phone function turned off. It has work software and replaces an extra desktop computer, and it has some required software that isn't on the mainframes. See my above post about logging in to 4 different apps on "my phone"
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Originally Posted by allergictocoach
(Post 37225445)
It was almost exactly an hour. I think we landed right as they were getting back from the fire alarm at Willis Tower. The plane at our gate prob couldn’t be dispatched. I was ok (as one could be) w the hour wait as my flight to ICT was showing 1.5 hours delayed. I’m sure some people with tighter connections were not doing as well. We landed at 645 gate at 745 and my flight left at 945. 2 full hours - no bag transfer.
Thank you, that is all… |
Originally Posted by MrAndy1369
(Post 37225686)
Hoping this was just a bad day or bad luck/chance and not a reflection on UA IAH going downhill as a whole.
:D |
Originally Posted by allergictocoach
(Post 37225445)
It was almost exactly an hour. I think we landed right as they were getting back from the fire alarm at Willis Tower. The plane at our gate prob couldn’t be dispatched. I was ok (as one could be) w the hour wait as my flight to ICT was showing 1.5 hours delayed. I’m sure some people with tighter connections were not doing as well. We landed at 645 gate at 745 and my flight left at 945. 2 full hours - no bag transfer.
At United, "Good Leads The Way". |
Originally Posted by zombietooth
(Post 37226620)
At United, "Good Leads The Way".
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Originally Posted by lincolnjkc
(Post 37225687)
I'm not sure if the OP was referring to a MAP or another device... IME it is fairly common (system-wide) to see an agent with at least two phone-sized devices on the podium -- I've always assumed one was their MAP the other was their personal phone (though I've also never seen an agent ignore a customer while playing with their own device...more often than not its just chilling and charging unless there's a lot of downtime)
That said I would’ve happily waited for her to finish texting her BF/GF or whatever if she would’ve just seemed the slightest bit interested in typing something, calling someone or otherwise acting to see where my golf clubs were. |
Originally Posted by allergictocoach
(Post 37224354)
It can happen anywhere but I tried to address it early on and the uninterested UA agent would not even pull up my record to see the scans…which normally then would’ve precipitated a call to baggage to investigate. It’s my golf clubs so not hard to spot at the wrong express gate. The total connection time at IAH was right at 2 hours.
UA agent here. Not condoning the agents demeanor or attitude, just addressing your bag issue. On the concourse, typically we do not investigate issues regarding missing luggage. We can absolutely check to see where the last scan was, the bag routing and whether it's where it should be. But we do not coordinate with the ramp or other departments if a bag is determined to be missing or perceived to be in the wrong place. Generally, these issues are dealt with at your final destination baggage claim. What the agent should have done was checked the tag, if they determined there was an issue then advise you to address it with baggage service at your final destination. At hubs and larger stations bags are typically not staged at the gate, they are kept in holding areas and on UAX flights it is not uncommon for bag loading to begin after boarding starts. At smaller stations and outstations where the ground crews work both the gates and ramp area interchangeably, they may be better equipped to locate missing bags but this is not practical at the hubs and the larger line stations and where I work we do not investigate bag related issues on the concourse. |
Originally Posted by NRoften
(Post 37226893)
UA agent here.
Not condoning the agents demeanor or attitude, just addressing your bag issue. On the concourse, typically we do not investigate issues regarding missing luggage. We can absolutely check to see where the last scan was, the bag routing and whether it's where it should be. But we do not coordinate with the ramp or other departments if a bag is determined to be missing or perceived to be in the wrong place. Generally, these issues are dealt with at your final destination baggage claim. What the agent should have done was checked the tag, if they determined there was an issue then advise you to address it with baggage service at your final destination. At hubs and larger stations bags are typically not staged at the gate, they are kept in holding areas and on UAX flights it is not uncommon for bag loading to begin after boarding starts. At smaller stations and outstations where the ground crews work both the gates and ramp area interchangeably, they may be better equipped to locate missing bags but this is not practical at the hubs and the larger line stations and where I work we do not investigate bag related issues on the concourse. At MCO, begging and pleading w UA staff is generally required to get them taken down to oversize. 🤷♂️ |
Tough to pick on IAH. It’s just “meh”.
It doesn’t boast a horrendous terminal setup/condition (IAD). It’s “meh”. It doesn’t have terribly rude employees (EWR). It’s “meh”. It doesn’t have particularly pleasant/sunny/interesting terminal areas (DEN/ORD/SFO). It’s just “meh”. My only complaints - the PL is also “meh”, the UCs are bursting at the seams, and I seem to hit IAH with tstorms almost any time of year. If you look up non-remarkable / mediocre in a dictionary, IAH would be in the photo. ”Meh”. All of it. |
Originally Posted by MrAndy1369
(Post 37225686)
Sad to read. I have connected through IAH multiple times, the last being 2022, and have always had friendly and helpful employees. I felt that IAH was one of the nicest UA hubs and that the old CO "work hard, play right" spirit still permeated through IAH. Even with construction and terminal changes/confusion in 2022, the employees couldn't have been nicer.
Hoping this was just a bad day or bad luck/chance and not a reflection on UA IAH going downhill as a whole. |
Originally Posted by NRoften
(Post 37226893)
On the concourse, typically we do not investigate issues regarding missing luggage. We can absolutely check to see where the last scan was, the bag routing and whether it's where it should be. But we do not coordinate with the ramp or other departments if a bag is determined to be missing or perceived to be in the wrong place. Generally, these issues are dealt with at your final destination baggage claim. What the agent should have done was checked the tag, if they determined there was an issue then advise you to address it with baggage service at your final destination.
It turned out that OP's bag was misplaced, but I would contend that there wasn't really any information to indicate that at the time of OP's complaint, and it's likely just confirmation bias playing a role here. Being "at the wrong gate" doesn't necessarily mean anything. For one thing, it could be a stale ping: I recently saw someone land at an airport on an AS flight, check their AirTag, and go to the gate agent saying their bag was left in Seattle. I had been speaking with the gate agent at the time, so I was in a position to ask what time the scan was -- and she saw it had been prior to takeoff. I believe she got her bag just fine. :) I've also noticed that (a) the low-power Bluetooth does not penetrate containers, so on a containerized flight, you won't get a ping until the container is unloaded and opened; (b) Apple is showing location data in a 3D space on a 2D map; and (c) there aren't a ton of compatible Apple devices in most baggage areas. On a narrowbody, I'll normally get a report from the bag upon landing, and often nothing else until it's approaching the chute and the gaggle of iPhone users present. Thus, there are several possibilities other than the bag being misplaced; for example: (a) a stale ping being misinterpreted by a zealous passenger or (b) the bag being placed intentionally in a staging area prior to loading the aircraft, and simply looking like it's at another gate (whether that's because the gate area is physically above the baggage storage area or not). And, thus, UA's policy that you outline here, to worry about the bags at the destination. OP's dissatisfaction is undqerstable but that kind of hands-on customer experience simply doesn't scale. Imagine if every AirTag user tried to initiate an investigation of every missing bag, sending people running after it. The baggage operation would spiral out of control, as the people chasing phantom pings would be taken away from their actual work of trying to get the majority of bags out on time.
Originally Posted by NRoften
(Post 37226893)
At hubs and larger stations bags are typically not staged at the gate, they are kept in holding areas and on UAX flights it is not uncommon for bag loading to begin after boarding starts. At smaller stations and outstations where the ground crews work both the gates and ramp area interchangeably, they may be better equipped to locate missing bags but this is not practical at the hubs and the larger line stations and where I work we do not investigate bag related issues on the concourse.
Originally Posted by zombietooth
(Post 37226620)
You were wise to be proactive, which should've been a plus
Originally Posted by zombietooth
(Post 37226620)
They had no answers so I asked if they could recover my bags from the baggage holding area. They told me that it would take hours, which I found hard to believe but then, another pax who was standing within earshot told me that he'd been waiting 4 hours already for his bags to be found.
Originally Posted by zombietooth
(Post 37226620)
Needless to say, I called again and again, ad nauseum, over the next four days, only to be lied to in every instance. We finally got our last bag 5 days after we landed.
Incidentally, I've experienced exactly the same attitude at exactly the same place at IAH -- the people who guard the gate to the downstairs dungeon in B. I'm not sure that I'd paint the whole airport with that brush, though. :) |
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