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Originally Posted by timfountain
(Post 34577765)
I've flown LH TATL >10 times. For me the deal breaker is the lack of air vents on LH, coupled with a cabin temperature that is mandated at 26C, according to the CC I spoke to when I complained how hot it was onboard. For me it was pure misery, no air and hotter than hell...The rest in terms of hard and soft product? I'd probably give the nod to UA, but I'm into LT mileage building and that means flying on UA metal on a 016 ticket....
You would think that LH wouldn't want to waste fuel overheating the cabin in order to reduce the carbon footprint of their flights. |
Originally Posted by zombietooth
(Post 34779698)
Is this a new thing with the temperature? 79F is way too hot for sleeping. The last time I flew LH, it was in F, and it was definitely not that warm. I was in shorts and a T-shirt though, and didn't use the blanket, sleeping uncovered. This weird heat thing is the reason I no longer will fly TK anywhere. Their cabins are kept oppressively warm. UA is mostly pretty good about cabin temp.
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I agree - while I have heard stories of hot non-US cabins, all of my LH flights (mostly 747s upstairs) have been fine.
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Originally Posted by jcturnbull
(Post 34779616)
Wouldn't both get EU protections? Destination is EU
Originally Posted by pseudoswede
(Post 34779649)
I learned yesterday that US airlines flying to an EU airport does not invoke any EC241 protection; only flying from an EU airport.
LH flights to and from EU airports would receive EU241 protection. For more see Best Practices for Filing EU 261 Claims Against United? And let's return to discussing LH vs UA Premium Economy |
Originally Posted by fumje
(Post 34779179)
I think the PY seat on UA is a big advantage.
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Originally Posted by halls120
(Post 34780411)
Correct. That said, every time I’ve purchased a LH long haul PE ticket, about a month or so out they have offered a very reasonable upcharge for moving to J, something I’ve never experienced on UA.
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I've had 300 for FRA-BOS this summer.
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I've found TATL LH cabins more often too warm than not, often enough that it can't be random chance. 26C sounds about right for what I recall, since that's about my threshold for feeling uncomfortable in my normal travel wear of long pants and long sleeves. LX cabins are usually just right. UA cabins are sometimes slightly cool.
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Originally Posted by CApreppie
(Post 34778765)
Are you trying to get yearly or lifetime status on either carrier? I haven't flown LH premium economy but it appears pretty similar soft product-wise to UA and the seats seem similar. So few carriers fly the 748! I have not even flown an A380...
Originally Posted by UAL250
(Post 34778768)
IFE is much better on UA than LH. LH service will probably be better (although not a guarantee). I'll let others chime in on the food aspect, but I'd assume LH >> UA on that. Really depends on what exactly you're looking for besides the seats because as mentioned they are very similar. Being able to fly on a 747 is a valid thing to consider IMO.
Originally Posted by dinoscool3
(Post 34779331)
UA is much better in LH. LH serves Y food and charges for seat assignments.
As always I appreciate the help and expertise of this community. |
Bumping this thread up.
Booking a flight for early next year. I can either fly AMS - ORD/EWR/IAD - RDU on UA metal the whole was in PE/C+ or I can fly AMS - FRA - RDU on LH metal the whole way in Euro Y/PE. No upgrade availability with points and miles (no status) on the UA flights. I've flown UA in PE but never on LH. I'm inclined to go via LH as long as the products are relatively on par with each other because I'd rather land back at RDU vs. having to connect onwards but if there is a notable difference, I'll go with UA metal. Looks like for 2026 the FRA - RDU flight is moving to a 787-9 if that matters |
Originally Posted by Duke787
(Post 37476791)
Bumping this thread up.
Booking a flight for early next year. I can either fly AMS - ORD/EWR/IAD - RDU on UA metal the whole was in PE/C+ or I can fly AMS - FRA - RDU on LH metal the whole way in Euro Y/PE. No upgrade availability with points and miles (no status) on the UA flights. I've flown UA in PE but never on LH. I'm inclined to go via LH as long as the products are relatively on par with each other because I'd rather land back at RDU vs. having to connect onwards but if there is a notable difference, I'll go with UA metal. Looks like for 2026 the FRA - RDU flight is moving to a 787-9 if that matters |
Originally Posted by Duke787
(Post 37476791)
Bumping this thread up.
Booking a flight for early next year. I can either fly AMS - ORD/EWR/IAD - RDU on UA metal the whole was in PE/C+ or I can fly AMS - FRA - RDU on LH metal the whole way in Euro Y/PE. No upgrade availability with points and miles (no status) on the UA flights. I've flown UA in PE but never on LH. I'm inclined to go via LH as long as the products are relatively on par with each other because I'd rather land back at RDU vs. having to connect onwards but if there is a notable difference, I'll go with UA metal. Looks like for 2026 the FRA - RDU flight is moving to a 787-9 if that matters LH's IFE is more international and less America focus --preferences will vary.. LH's carry on rules are much stricture. This differences may or may not matter. The more direct flight and connecting in europe is a plus in my mind. |
Originally Posted by halls120
(Post 37477270)
I would go with LH. I always avoid connecting in EWR and LH frequently has decently priced day of departure buy ups to business if you are interested in that.
Originally Posted by WineCountryUA
(Post 37477287)
There are plus/minuses to LH PremEcon. A couple of things to note. The meals are economy meals on china vs UA meals are derived from Business (for better or worst). And LH food may not always be to an American's taste.
LH's IFE is more international and less America focus --preferences will vary.. LH's carry on rules are much stricture. This differences may or may not matter. The more direct flight and connecting in europe is a plus in my mind. Just have decide on that but most likely going that direction which makes this a no-brainer (though won't get to experience the PE) |
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