UA waiving four segment requirement for non-U.S. residents (in 2021 for 2022 status)
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#36
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I got this email, and already see it credited.
I have had my primary address back to the US since about 2015 or so. I still have a secondary address in Canada on file, though havent used it for years. I figured I got the waiver due to that - seems an easy mistake to make, but sounds like there are others who have never had a foreign address that got it too? Some computer code gone bad?
my wife never got the email though, and shes set up the same way as me all these years. Havent checked her account to see if she was credited the UA segments too. If she wasnt, and I was, that would mean there is some seriously weird thing going on with the implementation.
Either way, for us personally, probably wont make a difference. Either things keep improving at the pace we are now, and maybe we start traveling domestically again sometime in the fall and will earn the UA segments anyway, or things get worse again and we wont. Potentially, if were able to make it back to YYZ before the end of the year, it might allow us to get on an AC nonstop from SFO, if it comes back and the UA flight still hasnt. But honestly, the situation there at least now is well worse, and Im not convinced there will be a trip this year. Technically, we are allowed to go back (all Canadian citizens also), but with the severe restrictions on entry, including no exceptions for fully vaccinated folks (at least not yet), its not worth it. We really want to see family, but its not worth it until things get better and the restrictions ease.
as for potential further UA incentives, the email didnt strike me as a this is it - were not going to do anything else, but simply as one thing they are doing to help international elites now. I didnt get the impression it was foreshadowing no additional giveaways or promos to help people, or that they wouldnt be doing it. I suspect they will be continually looking at the data and situation as we get further into the year, and making decisions based on what will be best for United.
I have had my primary address back to the US since about 2015 or so. I still have a secondary address in Canada on file, though havent used it for years. I figured I got the waiver due to that - seems an easy mistake to make, but sounds like there are others who have never had a foreign address that got it too? Some computer code gone bad?
my wife never got the email though, and shes set up the same way as me all these years. Havent checked her account to see if she was credited the UA segments too. If she wasnt, and I was, that would mean there is some seriously weird thing going on with the implementation.
Either way, for us personally, probably wont make a difference. Either things keep improving at the pace we are now, and maybe we start traveling domestically again sometime in the fall and will earn the UA segments anyway, or things get worse again and we wont. Potentially, if were able to make it back to YYZ before the end of the year, it might allow us to get on an AC nonstop from SFO, if it comes back and the UA flight still hasnt. But honestly, the situation there at least now is well worse, and Im not convinced there will be a trip this year. Technically, we are allowed to go back (all Canadian citizens also), but with the severe restrictions on entry, including no exceptions for fully vaccinated folks (at least not yet), its not worth it. We really want to see family, but its not worth it until things get better and the restrictions ease.
as for potential further UA incentives, the email didnt strike me as a this is it - were not going to do anything else, but simply as one thing they are doing to help international elites now. I didnt get the impression it was foreshadowing no additional giveaways or promos to help people, or that they wouldnt be doing it. I suspect they will be continually looking at the data and situation as we get further into the year, and making decisions based on what will be best for United.
#37
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Even though Guam and the CNMI (Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands) are U.S. territories, they are often treated as international, including by U.S. immigration authorities.
So I was not surprised that my older son, who moved back to Saipan in November, got the four-segment credit.
My wife & I just returned to SPN less than three weeks ago (duly updating our address with UA) and were pleasantly surprised to receive the same.
Not that it will make much difference for us. We are waiting for the GUM United Club to be reopened, and territorial (and Philippine) quarantine requirements to be rescinded, before resuming travel to MNL.
GUM-MNL is about 30% ($100) less on PR than UA.
So I was not surprised that my older son, who moved back to Saipan in November, got the four-segment credit.
My wife & I just returned to SPN less than three weeks ago (duly updating our address with UA) and were pleasantly surprised to receive the same.
Not that it will make much difference for us. We are waiting for the GUM United Club to be reopened, and territorial (and Philippine) quarantine requirements to be rescinded, before resuming travel to MNL.
GUM-MNL is about 30% ($100) less on PR than UA.
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I wish UA would consider applying this to Hawaii residents as well. We live in the most remote island chain in the world. Most of my flying has been international pre-COVID-19. With the severe quarantines in-place, it's unlikely normal international travel will resume anytime soon. We already took a loss when UA made the number of flights taken more valuable than distance flown when they redesigned the MP program.
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The elite program is not mileage based but the rewards program still uses miles as the currency and 98% of the MP members are focused on rewards, not status.
And there is the whole thing about having established branding.
One could say the elite program is really "Premier Membership" and the awards program is MP.
Others are maintaining their branding -- Delta SkyMiles
And there is the whole thing about having established branding.
One could say the elite program is really "Premier Membership" and the awards program is MP.
Others are maintaining their branding -- Delta SkyMiles
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For many of us international members, the program being called Milage Plus is extremely accurate. Prior to 2020 it was entirely milage based making the Milage part of MilagePlus be accurate. Now with the new PQP system which is based partially on milage (if flying Star Partners) or dollars based (if flying UA) one could easily make the argument that we must earn Milage Plus Dollars on UA
Your residential address on your United profile as of January 1, 2021 must be outside the US, per the terms of the offer:
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Since I am still less than 60% of the way toward Million Miler (lifetime Premier Gold), I definitely hope that MileagePlus remains true to its name, and that we don't all get Bonv°yed!
(That is where Marriott removed the possibility of earning lifetime Titanium Elite status, after some of us had spend years of our lives and over $100K pursuing it. This was even worse than the UA unilateral reduction of our lifetime United Club admission benefits. )
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So it is very strange.
Despite me receiving the email, and already having the segments credited, my wife didn't receive the email or get the UA-minimum credited. Let me be clear: likely this won't be the difference between either of us making status or not, and I shouldn't have had these waived, because I haven't used a foreign address as primary since about 2014 or maybe 2015? However, it is very strange since my wife and I have essentially the same setup in our accounts (primary and really only used address in the US, we both have a secondary address in Canada on file, but both haven't used it since 2015). Not sure why I got picked and she didn't. So just trying to figure out how they have things coded for this.
Despite me receiving the email, and already having the segments credited, my wife didn't receive the email or get the UA-minimum credited. Let me be clear: likely this won't be the difference between either of us making status or not, and I shouldn't have had these waived, because I haven't used a foreign address as primary since about 2014 or maybe 2015? However, it is very strange since my wife and I have essentially the same setup in our accounts (primary and really only used address in the US, we both have a secondary address in Canada on file, but both haven't used it since 2015). Not sure why I got picked and she didn't. So just trying to figure out how they have things coded for this.