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UA Face Mask Policy -- Masks no longer required on domestic, any intl flights still??
I just boarded a UA flight and as soon as I boarded the FA asked if I had a different type of mask. I was wearing the neck gaitor style one. I replied “no” and she said I cannot wear that style as they are now not allowed on UA.
I was on a flight last week and this wasn’t the case, nor have I seen any news of it. United’s own website still says says face covering (except vented, and only face shields which has been standard for a while now). Did the FA make this up? Or, did I miss the news? |
American Airlines recently banned neck gaiters - so it wouldn't surprise me if UA has done the same, although I don't see any news on it.
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UA policy
Will I have to wear a mask when I travel? Yes. Federal law requires all travelers to wear a face mask with no vents or openings that fully covers their nose and mouth. Masks must be worn in the airport and during the entire flight, and between bites and sips if travelers are eating or drinking. This includes customer service counters and kiosks, airport lounges, gates and baggage claim areas. A face shield alone does not count as a face covering, and bandanas are also not permitted. Travelers who aren't wearing their masks in the airport or on board may be refused transport, be subject to fines, and could also lose their travel privileges on future United flights. Children younger than 2 years old are exempt UA is required to enforce CDC requirements which state The following do not fulfill the requirements of the Order.
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Federal law bans gaiters. took effect on 2/1 at 11:00pm EST
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Originally Posted by trk1
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Federal law bans gaiters. took effect on 2/1 at 11:00pm EST
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Yes, an E.O. is regulatory law, and is published in the Federal Register and the Code of Federal Regulations.
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Originally Posted by SPN Lifer
(Post 33014653)
Yes, an E.O. is regulatory law, and is published in the Federal Register and the Code of Federal Regulations.
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Originally Posted by SPN Lifer
(Post 33014653)
Yes, an E.O. is regulatory law, and is published in the Federal Register and the Code of Federal Regulations.
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United Airlines is subject to federal law, which includes both statutory and regulatory law, as taught in every law school in the USA.
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Originally Posted by UVU Wolverine
(Post 33014676)
Correct, and it has the same potential consequences as a law, however it is not a law but an executive order and should be called as such since the way each created is vastly different (why have two different terms for the same thing then?). But that’s OMNI stuff. Anyways, that explains the neck gaitor ban and I appreciate the information.
CDC has the authority under law enacted by Congress and signed by the President to order safety measures such as this mask requirement. It did so. The fact that it did so because it was ordered to do so by the President has nothing to do with the underlying authority. All of this is clearly stated in the CDC's Order, including citations to the specific laws authorizing it to act. Not necessary to over-complicate this. Violation is a crime and a civil violation. |
Originally Posted by Often1
(Post 33014838)
Nope.
CDC has the authority under law enacted by Congress and signed by the President to order safety measures such as this mask requirement. It did so. The fact that it did so because it was ordered to do so by the President has nothing to do with the underlying authority. All of this is clearly stated in the CDC's Order, including citations to the specific laws authorizing it to act. Not necessary to over-complicate this. Violation is a crime and a civil violation. Notorious Serial Killer - "What are you in for?" Guy - "Mask violation against CDC order" Notorious Serial Killer - *Runs away screaming* |
With the new variants it seems good to strengthen the mask requirements, so this seems to be a good thing. But no notification by United about the change seems bad; how many people are going to realize that the policy changed before they leave for the airport?
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Originally Posted by Doppy
(Post 33014973)
With the new variants it seems good to strengthen the mask requirements, so this seems to be a good thing. But no notification by United about the change seems bad; how many people are going to realize that the policy changed before they leave for the airport?
This is much more far reaching than UA and was announced very publicly (lots of domestic news media coverage), but on a very short timeline. Honestly it is not that different from the prior airline policies but is now a federal regulation (and some marginal options removed). This should lead to a much more consistent set of requirements for travelers. |
I know vented masks are not allowed by themselves, but can one be used in conjunction with another mask? These days, I double-mask whenever I'm indoors away from home with one surgical mask and one filtered (and vented) cloth mask.
(I'm sure things will change before my next flight in August, but I am interested to know United policy on this.) |
Originally Posted by Doppy
(Post 33014973)
With the new variants it seems good to strengthen the mask requirements, so this seems to be a good thing. But no notification by United about the change seems bad; how many people are going to realize that the policy changed before they leave for the airport?
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