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Kannai Oct 28, 2019 10:28 pm

I'll stick with UA mainly because, while, like many others, my travel habits (just over 100,000 miles but in the mid-30s for segments) would probably drop me down to Silver, I'll mercifully be hitting MM status in Jan. or Feb. I'm just sad my partner will only have a year to enjoy 1K status before he, like me, gets kicked down to gold. The sad thing is that due to an expected number of business trips this year, I'm well over 150,000 in just around 54 segments. While I'm too lazy to calculate my spend, there's a chance that if my next year's travel were like this (it won't be), I'd eek out another year of 1K before I lose my GPUs/Polaris, preboarding, and free tapas boxes. At least I ended up with 8 GPUs for next year (and got an op-up and a freebie upgrade so my last two years of 1K will have had 8 Polaris flights each).

I will say that this is liberating in the sense that each year I've carefully planned flights so I hit thresholds (50k, then 75k, and the last few years 100k). Having no chance of 1k ever again means there's no point in worrying about it. I can spend down my miles before they become worthless and just enjoy BG1 and lounge access until they take that away from those with MM status.

narvik Oct 28, 2019 11:27 pm


Originally Posted by Kannai (Post 31676354)
...Having no chance of 1k ever again...

And I still predict United will -within the next 18 months- try and woo you and many other ex-1Ks back with an offer we won't be able to refuse.

In the meantime I am making the most of enjoying non-UA flight experiences.....
;)

halls120 Oct 28, 2019 11:46 pm


Originally Posted by narvik (Post 31676432)
And I still predict United will -within the next 18 months- try and woo you and many other ex-1Ks back with an offer we won't be able to refuse.

In the meantime I am making the most of enjoying non-UA flight experiences.....
;)

They can woo all they want, but many of us have seen the light and aren’t returning to our old ways.

ContinentalFan Oct 29, 2019 12:22 am


Originally Posted by halls120 (Post 31676462)
They can woo all they want, but many of us have seen the light and aren’t returning to our old ways.

As in “this is my last relapse”? 😉

hirohito888 Oct 29, 2019 2:57 am


Originally Posted by wco81 (Post 31676343)
Your reservation on non UA ticket is showing up in your UA account with estimated PQP?

Correct. It's because there are UA segments in my reservation, so I have UA PNR and can pull it up.

Kannai Oct 30, 2019 3:40 am


Originally Posted by narvik (Post 31676432)
And I still predict United will -within the next 18 months- try and woo you and many other ex-1Ks back with an offer we won't be able to refuse.

In the meantime I am making the most of enjoying non-UA flight experiences.....
;)

I sure hope so but I'm not counting on it, or even expecting it in the slightest. E+ will keep me on UA more than otherwise, but since I have almost no hope of of hitting 2MM, I'll fly on other *A airlines significantly more, esp. if its only $50 for exit row as NH just charged me on MEX NRT. I think TK charged me $80 for the same on NRT IST. More than willing to pay that for a 12 hr flight.

haddon90 Oct 30, 2019 3:55 am

i've been doing both UA and AS, but with me hitting 75K on AS for 2020, i will change most, if not all to AS domestically.

halls120 Oct 30, 2019 7:05 am


Originally Posted by ContinentalFan (Post 31676504)
As in “this is my last relapse”? 😉

LOL, I’m tired of having the football pulled off the tee just As I’m about to kick it. ;)

wco81 Oct 30, 2019 4:14 pm

So what yields more PQPs, a non 016 ticket with all segments on non-UA metal or a non-016 ticket with one or more UA segments, including possibly a TATL or TPAC on UA metal?

If I understand it correctly, UA would calculate miles time class bonus divided by 5 or 6 for all non-UA segments. But for UA segments on that ticket, it would know the approximate PQD/PQP so it wouldn't calculate the award miles divided by 5 or 6 for that segment.

If it does this mixture of calculations, does that mean on a non-016 ticket that it would calculate some segments dividing by 5 and some segments divided by 6?

findark Oct 30, 2019 4:21 pm


Originally Posted by wco81 (Post 31683695)
So what yields more PQPs, a non 016 ticket with all segments on non-UA metal or a non-016 ticket with one or more UA segments, including possibly a TATL or TPAC on UA metal?

Depends how much it costs.


Originally Posted by wco81 (Post 31683695)
If it does this mixture of calculations, does that mean on a non-016 ticket that it would calculate some segments dividing by 5 and some segments divided by 6?

Yes.

Repooc17 Oct 30, 2019 4:30 pm


Originally Posted by wco81 (Post 31683695)
So what yields more PQPs, a non 016 ticket with all segments on non-UA metal or a non-016 ticket with one or more UA segments, including possibly a TATL or TPAC on UA metal?

If I understand it correctly, UA would calculate miles time class bonus divided by 5 or 6 for all non-UA segments. But for UA segments on that ticket, it would know the approximate PQD/PQP so it wouldn't calculate the award miles divided by 5 or 6 for that segment.

If it does this mixture of calculations, does that mean on a non-016 ticket that it would calculate some segments dividing by 5 and some segments divided by 6?

The same way as they are calculated now. UA segments would be based on spend, and non-UA segments would be calculated based on distance.

aveRex Oct 30, 2019 6:40 pm

Staying with United...
 
I no longer travel but 2-3 times per year. As a 1MM, I have lifetime Gold which is sufficient. I purchase first class tickets when I travel or use miles that I have accumulated. None of the other benefits are important to me. Even when I was a 1K and GS I didn’t rely on United for upgrades but rather purchased first most trips. The GS benefit of protection during irregular operations is the only benefit I used when I had that status. I rarely used the system wide upgrades or regional upgrades that were given for about 10 years. All in all these changes don’t affect me much.

FlyingBeanCounter Nov 2, 2019 1:58 pm

Offically Dumping UA?
 
How many people have officially dumped UA due to the new requirements? I did - reluctantly. I suppose I could have hit 1k next year but I am becoming worried that I am investing my loyalty with a company that pretty much hates us it appears.

So, how many have officially moved on? Anyone else? I guess I am curious if UA will actually see any significant consequences for their choices.

Mods - if this fits somewhere else please move. I take no offense. :)

mahasamatman Nov 2, 2019 2:10 pm

I have not dumped anyone. I will continue to fly the airline that is most convenient, and E+ gives the edge to United when it's a close call.

Having the MM status and not caring about annual status is very liberating.

Repooc17 Nov 2, 2019 2:12 pm

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unit...ou-switch.html

UA doesn't hate anyone. It wants more of your $ (or other people's $ spent on your behalf). It's a simple transaction between carrier and passenger, much like most other carriers.

For me, I have never had affiliation to a single carrier. It helps by living in a city where all three US legacies use as their hubs, plus rows of non-US carriers. I fly based on schedule and pricing. Never had emotions or attachments to any single carrier.


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