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LarrySinNJ Jun 22, 2019 10:41 am

Issues at EWR with ATT Cellular Coverage
 
For the last several months, I am noticing that around Terminal C, I have difficulty accessing ATT cellular data, even though I have two or more bars. While the United or Club Wi-Fi works, I generally shy away due to security concerns. It's exacerbated while on the plane with the cabin door open. I can't send or receive texts or email, again, even though I show 2-5 bars on the phone. On the latest iOS and all other software.

Is anyone else noticing anything similar?

mahasamatman Jun 22, 2019 10:48 am

Time to switch cell carriers? In general, I've found that airports are the worst place for cellphone reception. It's just not a priority for the cellphone companies.

laxmillenial Jun 22, 2019 10:49 am


Originally Posted by LarrySinNJ (Post 31228753)
For the last several months, I am noticing that around Terminal C, I have difficulty accessing ATT cellular data, even though I have two or more bars. While the United or Club Wi-Fi works, I generally shy away due to security concerns. It's exacerbated while on the plane with the cabin door open. I can't send or receive texts or email, again, even though I show 2-5 bars on the phone. On the latest iOS and all other software.

Is anyone else noticing anything similar?

Specific planes have different bodies that block signals, whether the door is open or not. It’s the body of the aircraft inhibiting the signals.

Also you shouldn’t be avoiding WiFi due to security concerns. Use a VPN, buy a 30 day trial. Avoiding is the wrong security measure to use. If someone wanted to hack you, going through your cell’s phone network or open wireless connections isn’t much harder.

To be honest, it’s probably just network congestion while you’re in the terminal. Number of users and number of available slots. This occurs at lax as well while on the taxiway. If it’s just data that’s slow, sometimes LTE networks can be more congested than 3G (especially at sporting events) as a result of most people having newer phones. Every time I’m at a major sporting event with a LTE slowdown on data, 3G is much more reliable and faster, 100% of the time.

mahasamatman Jun 22, 2019 10:52 am


Originally Posted by laxmillenial (Post 31228782)
Use a VPN, buy a 30 day trial.

Or, use one of the plethora of free ones.

Yaddablahblah Jun 22, 2019 11:22 am

Same experience. It’s an ATT network issue. Verizon works fine, even on the plane when ATT coverage is weakest.

mr8 Jun 22, 2019 11:26 am


Originally Posted by mahasamatman (Post 31228795)
Or, use one of the plethora of free ones.

Yeah, cause a free vpn is super safe... /s

Could alway just setup your own vpn server at home (many routers have a server built-in) or setup a server/vps with Algo or openvpn.

villox Jun 22, 2019 11:28 am

Absolutely. And it’s really weird, it works for awhile, then stops. Toggling airplane mode on and off can give you connectivity for a few more minutes. Then you have to do it again. Very frustrating.

EWR764 Jun 22, 2019 11:43 am

Yes Yes Yes!!! These days I just expect to be on radio silence from boarding to roughly when we start taxi. Very frustrating and I’m glad it’s not just me or my phone.

s0ssos Jun 22, 2019 11:52 am


Originally Posted by mahasamatman (Post 31228795)
Or, use one of the plethora of free ones.

You do know if you use a vpn the provider sees EVERYTHING you do?

Kacee Jun 22, 2019 12:00 pm

I'm not sure what this has to with United Airlines. Do we really want to start a list of airports with crappy cell coverage?

Originally Posted by s0ssos (Post 31228945)
You do know if you use a vpn the provider sees EVERYTHING you do?

You mean like your browser provider already does?

s0ssos Jun 22, 2019 12:03 pm


Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 31228974)
I'm not sure what this has to with United Airlines. Do we really want to start a list of airports with crappy cell coverage?

You mean like your browser provider already does?

Lots of phone activity aren't through your browser. Apps are constantly phoning home.

Depends on your browser. WaPo has a post about how letting Google be your browser is like letting a child run a candy store.

mr8 Jun 22, 2019 12:21 pm


Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 31228974)
...
You mean like your browser provider already does?


Originally Posted by s0ssos (Post 31228984)
Lots of phone activity aren't through your browser. Apps are constantly phoning home.

Depends on your browser. WaPo has a post about how letting Google be your browser is like letting a child run a candy store.

The problem with public wifi/free VPNs isn't what your browser and apps are sending home, but who is on the same wifi/VPN as you and what those people might be doing.

Kacee Jun 22, 2019 12:27 pm


Originally Posted by mr8 (Post 31229040)
The problem with public wifi/free VPNs isn't what your browser and apps are sending home, but who is on the same wifi/VPN as you and what those people might be doing.

That's an issue anytime you're sharing a wifi network, not just public free wifi. United Club wifi being a prime example.

s0ssos Jun 22, 2019 12:31 pm


Originally Posted by mr8 (Post 31229040)
The problem with public wifi/free VPNs isn't what your browser and apps are sending home, but who is on the same wifi/VPN as you and what those people might be doing.

? How does having someone on the same vpn as you make a difference? You might as well as say having someone on the same internet?
And most of the time it doesn't matter if someone is sharing the wifi with you. As long as they haven't hacked it and are doing a man-in-the-middle attack you're fine.

mr8 Jun 22, 2019 12:40 pm

This is getting a bit off topic, but...

Originally Posted by Kacee (Post 31229062)
That's an issue anytime you're sharing a wifi network, not just public free wifi. United Club wifi being a prime example.

Yep, VPN even in there too. Same goes for the inflight wifi, though your UA account info is still vulnerable there even if you use a VPN in-flight - I wonder if that's why they eliminated the old login portal at the lounges.

Originally Posted by s0ssos (Post 31229078)
? How does having someone on the same vpn as you make a difference? You might as well as say having someone on the same internet?
And most of the time it doesn't matter if someone is sharing the wifi with you. As long as they haven't hacked it and are doing a man-in-the-middle attack you're fine.

Well, if you're installing a free VPN then it will often make you install a profile/certificate that could potentially compromise your security, and when something is free, your are often the product.


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