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Old Jan 24, 2019, 10:13 am
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Originally Posted by Continited
When did this supposed bird strike occur? A bird strike at cruise does seem highly unlikely... if it occurred earlier in the flight during climb out, why did they get all the way to Goose Bay? Something doesn’t add up...
Might want to check up on facts.

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Old Jan 24, 2019, 10:17 am
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Instead, he wants to hold United accountable and is seeking “fair compensation” for his bodily injury and severe emotional distress as a result of the “brush with death.”
What kind of bodily injury?
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Old Jan 24, 2019, 10:19 am
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Originally Posted by malgudi
Only 2 of those species listed can climb above 30k feet, and one inhabits Europe/Asia and the other Africa... neither Canada. Thank you for the facts.
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Old Jan 24, 2019, 10:37 am
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Maybe the snowflake plaintiff gets sucked into a toilet and can claim emotional distress, blaming American Standard. Actually I hope he walks into a pole while texting and sues Apple for allowing him to be distracted.

UA isn't perfect, nobody is, but I've never met a pilot that would invent something in some grand coverup.

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Old Jan 24, 2019, 10:37 am
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Originally Posted by prestonh
so the pilot statements are inaccurate?
You think the pilots actually made statements like what is being depicted by the accuser?

I have a bridge to sell you!

I know one of the pilots on that flight, spoke soon after this event happened last year.
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Old Jan 24, 2019, 10:49 am
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Originally Posted by Boogie711
I think even you would agree there is a WORLD of difference between "the flight was diverted because of a mechanical failure" and "We're going to claim it was a bird strike publicly, just so we don't admit we almost killed everyone on board due to negligence."
IANAL but in generally the USA court system doesn't award damages based on potential risks along the lines of "we could have died". I would think that what an individual can get for being held on board rather than deplaned in Goose Bay would be small, especially since the UA CoC has a disclaimer about incidental damages such as "I could have made a million dollar deal if only I had been allowed into the terminal."

Wouldn't the big issue for UA be how the incident was reported to the FAA? If it really was a maintenance failure that caused the problem (specifically routine or nonroutine maintenance being improperly performed) and UA blaimed it on a bird to avoid penalities or additional inspections, this could be huge (but not lead to a big payout for the plaintiff).
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Old Jan 24, 2019, 11:49 am
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Originally Posted by prestonh
I'll let you dispute this one, I for one would appreciate getting on the ground alive. YMMV :
Where are you getting that quote from? I don't see it in the article?

FWIW, I am referring to the unattributed allegation that it was from:
Instead, they believe the incident was a result of a United mechanic over-torqueing the bolts of the cockpit window
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Old Jan 24, 2019, 12:07 pm
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Originally Posted by jhayes_1780
Where are you getting that quote from? I don't see it in the article?

FWIW, I am referring to the unattributed allegation that it was from:
The lawsuit.

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Old Jan 24, 2019, 12:17 pm
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Two things come to mind: first, in exchange for this lawsuit and potentially no, or trivial, damages, presumably the Plaintiff will be kicked out of MP, losing his MM status and any RDMs he may have.

Second, I thought the three hour tarmac rule doesn’t apply outside the USA.
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Old Jan 24, 2019, 12:22 pm
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Originally Posted by lhrsfo
Two things come to mind: first, in exchange for this lawsuit and potentially no, or trivial, damages, presumably the Plaintiff will be kicked out of MP, losing his MM status and any RDMs he may have.

Second, I thought the three hour tarmac rule doesn’t apply outside the USA.
U.S. carriers operating international flights departing from or arriving in the United States must specify, in advance, their own time limits for deplaning passengers
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Old Jan 24, 2019, 12:25 pm
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Originally Posted by prestonh
The lawsuit.
Its a shame you can't (or won't) cite your cite your source.

Last edited by WineCountryUA; Jan 24, 2019 at 3:06 pm Reason: Quote updated to reflect Moderator edit; let's maintain civility
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Old Jan 24, 2019, 12:26 pm
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Originally Posted by Boogie711
I will say I was prepared to write him off as a crazy, until I saw he's flown over 1M miles with United...
Some (many?) would interpret the million miles as evidence in support of your initial assumption.
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Old Jan 24, 2019, 12:26 pm
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Originally Posted by jhayes_1780
Its a shame you can't (or won't) cite your cite your source.
The lawsuit is linked from the original news report.
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Old Jan 24, 2019, 12:26 pm
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I did not see a record of a bird strike in the FAA database: https://wildlife.faa.gov/databaseSearch.aspx

Doesn't mean it didn't happen, as it is a voluntary system. UAL is a pretty good reporter though, having had 503 reports attributed to it in 2018.
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Old Jan 24, 2019, 12:31 pm
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Originally Posted by jsloan
The lawsuit is linked from the original news report.
Thank you!
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