Why so little service NYC-LON?
Jul 31, 2017, 11:09 pm
#16
Join Date: Apr 2011
Programs: WN, AA, UA, DL
Posts: 1,313
"So little"? Over 1,100 premium-heavy seats to a strictly O&D city? No, that's quite a bit of capacity to LHR. Comparing UA to paired airlines with hubs on both ends will not be kind to UA in any circumstance.
Aug 1, 2017, 12:34 am
#17
Join Date: Aug 2013
Posts: 8,770
In any case, there is absolutely nothing to suggest that any airline has cut back its London flights due to Brexit.
Ryanair has made noises about being forced to move aircraft to Europe, but that is to do with the potential end of Open Skies freedoms rather than any drop in demand.
Aug 1, 2017, 12:46 am
#18
Suspended
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Canada, USA, Europe
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 31,452
Aug 1, 2017, 2:29 am
#19
Join Date: Apr 2003
Programs: UA *G 1MM LT United Club & Global Entry
Posts: 2,756
Actually UA has an opportunity to feed revenue traffic through LHR to a huge new terminal full of *A airlines. They just need to set up the JV's to do so.
For me EWR-LHR-BKK on UA/TG would be sweet: double redeye, and early am arrival in Asia. One can dream.
SL
For me EWR-LHR-BKK on UA/TG would be sweet: double redeye, and early am arrival in Asia. One can dream.
SL
Aug 1, 2017, 3:16 am
#20
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NBO/ORD
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 188
I can't find any *A carrier at Heathrow with destinations from NYC that a connection at LHR would really open up compared to connecting at their own hubs. A3? Nah, UA flies EWR-ATH. SK has nonstops from NYC airports to all their destinations from LHR except SVG, and that's quick via CPH.
AI to AMD via LHR is maybe the only route?
Aug 1, 2017, 3:20 am
#21
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: London, United Kingdom
Programs: British Airways Gold
Posts: 2,636
Not even remotely true. Some jobs will move, the vast majority will not. Even as an opponent of Brexit I recognise this.
Aug 1, 2017, 3:30 am
#22
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Netherlands
Programs: KL Platinum; A3 Gold
Posts: 28,730
Originally Posted by NY Times
(Reuters) - Global banks have said they could move thousands of jobs out of Britain to prepare for Brexit, the country's planned exit from the European Union.
Financial services companies need a regulated subsidiary in an EU country to offer products across the bloc, which could prompt some to move jobs out of Britain if it loses access to the European single market.
Following are related stories about top banks (in alphabetical order):
ASSOCIATION OF FOREIGN BANKS IN GERMANY
The association expects 3,000 to 5,000 new jobs in Frankfurt over the next two years as a result of Brexit, its head Stefan Winter, of UBS, told German newspaper Welt am Sonntag in June. He said he expected 12 to 14 major banks to expand their Frankfurt sites significantly or build new ones.
Financial services companies need a regulated subsidiary in an EU country to offer products across the bloc, which could prompt some to move jobs out of Britain if it loses access to the European single market.
Following are related stories about top banks (in alphabetical order):
ASSOCIATION OF FOREIGN BANKS IN GERMANY
The association expects 3,000 to 5,000 new jobs in Frankfurt over the next two years as a result of Brexit, its head Stefan Winter, of UBS, told German newspaper Welt am Sonntag in June. He said he expected 12 to 14 major banks to expand their Frankfurt sites significantly or build new ones.
True - but no airline anywhere has published their S19 timetable yet.
Aug 1, 2017, 5:55 am
#23
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: NYC
Programs: BA Gold, HH Diamond, Marriott Gold
Posts: 1,260
My point was we have AI, 2x BA daily and 1x VS daily from EWR. That seems like enough capacity out of EWR.
Aug 1, 2017, 6:55 am
#24
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Apr 2003
Programs: UA*Lifetime GS, Hyatt* Lifetime Globalist
Posts: 12,332
I find UA has done a good job with its currently EWR-LHR capacity.
OP is comparing apples with oranges. Compare a single airlines with two global alliances does not make a lot of sense to me. Also, try to include VS into mix of Skyteam is also misleading.
UA has no control of other *A routes. When comparing with AA and DL, UA is just as competitive.
OP is comparing apples with oranges. Compare a single airlines with two global alliances does not make a lot of sense to me. Also, try to include VS into mix of Skyteam is also misleading.
UA has no control of other *A routes. When comparing with AA and DL, UA is just as competitive.
Aug 1, 2017, 7:50 am
#25
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: New York, NY
Programs: UA, AA, DL, Hertz, Avis, National, Hyatt, Hilton, SPG, Marriott
Posts: 9,452
Aug 1, 2017, 8:01 am
#26
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 1999
Location: ORD/MDW
Programs: BA/AA/AS/B6/WN/ UA/HH/MR and more like 'em but most felicitously & importantly MUCCI
Posts: 19,719
Aug 1, 2017, 8:05 am
#27
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Hiding under the trees in Denver, CO
Programs: UA 1K 2.5MM, Marriott Lifetime Titanium Elite, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 4,306
The #6 EWRLHR was a slot-squat. UA has been at 5x consistently since 2013 or so and seems to be adequate coverage for the market.
Sooo excited! I'm definitely doing London next spring on our new nonstop! We had it several years ago, and I made use of it several times.
Aug 1, 2017, 8:19 am
#28
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Dulles, VA
Programs: UA Life Gold, Marriott Life Titanium
Posts: 2,757
Again, there's nothing *A can do in London that they're already doing better and cheaper at Frankfurt, Munich, Zurich, etc. Plus,. with no *A member hubbed there, IRROPS get very very dicey if you miss a connection.
Aug 1, 2017, 8:21 am
#29
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: NYC
Programs: UA-1K MM, AA-Gold, DL-Silver, AS-MVP
Posts: 2,508
But can't you do the same double-redeye + early am arrival in Asia by flying via FRA or ZRH?
I can't find any *A carrier at Heathrow with destinations from NYC that a connection at LHR would really open up compared to connecting at their own hubs. A3? Nah, UA flies EWR-ATH. SK has nonstops from NYC airports to all their destinations from LHR except SVG, and that's quick via CPH.
AI to AMD via LHR is maybe the only route?
I can't find any *A carrier at Heathrow with destinations from NYC that a connection at LHR would really open up compared to connecting at their own hubs. A3? Nah, UA flies EWR-ATH. SK has nonstops from NYC airports to all their destinations from LHR except SVG, and that's quick via CPH.
AI to AMD via LHR is maybe the only route?
Aug 1, 2017, 8:27 am
#30
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: New York, NY
Programs: UA, AA, DL, Hertz, Avis, National, Hyatt, Hilton, SPG, Marriott
Posts: 9,452
That's exactly whats happening. The LHR slot is summer-seasonal and instead of operating essentially a wingtip flight on EWR-LHR, it will move to DEN.