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Originally Posted by zeus2120
(Post 37016879)
Why does it seem / feel like the boarding process with United takes so long? I'll use an apples-to-apples example with the 737 plane type. United generally boards the 737 40 minutes before departure (I think -- that's what my last CLE-DEN boarding pass shows). That means if you board Group 1 / 2, you're sitting on the plane for a good 30+ minutes before pushing back. Sometimes they "push" (the app shows departed) but we still sit at the gate for multiple minutes.
I flew Southwest from LAS-CLE a few days ago on a 737-800 with 15 open seats before standbys -- so at least 160 passengers. I was in the "A" boarding group. Boarding began at 5:24pm (was supposed to be 5:20pm). I was on the plane at 5:28pm. We pushed from the gate at 5:44pm and were in the air at 5:51pm. At busy LAS, it took Southwest 27 minutes to board an entire plane and get airborne. But I wanted to add that United's WilMA method is faster than the back-to-front method used by other airlines (AS, AA, DL, etc.): https://jonathanbecher.com/2017/02/1...ard-airplanes/ https://mythresults.com/airplane-boarding So UA is actually (slightly) better than just about everyone else aside from WN. UA is also more aggressive with pushing back before final W&B numbers are calculated -- one of my infurating annoyances with AS is that they wait to push until all of the numbers are in, which often results in boarding ending 20 minutes before scheduled departure but the plane not actually pushing back from the gate until 5 minutes after scheduled departure. |
Was an 321neo flight from FLL-ORD earlier this week. After we taxiied to gate, the pilot comes on the PA and says "we have a bit of a weight-balance issue and need to remove a bunch of bags before opening the door. Otherwise we run the risk of the tail tipping."
Knowing the 737-9 series has a similar risk and uses a tail stand, is there not something similar for the 321neo? It wasn't a huge deal, but it was an extra 15 minutes we had to wait for bags to get unloaded. |
Originally Posted by rflor
(Post 37045932)
Was an 321neo flight from FLL-ORD earlier this week. After we taxiied to gate, the pilot comes on the PA and says "we have a bit of a weight-balance issue and need to remove a bunch of bags before opening the door. Otherwise we run the risk of the tail tipping."
Knowing the 737-9 series has a similar risk and uses a tail stand, is there not something similar for the 321neo? It wasn't a huge deal, but it was an extra 15 minutes we had to wait for bags to get unloaded. |
Originally Posted by rflor
(Post 37045932)
Was an 321neo flight from FLL-ORD earlier this week. After we taxiied to gate, the pilot comes on the PA and says "we have a bit of a weight-balance issue and need to remove a bunch of bags before opening the door. Otherwise we run the risk of the tail tipping."
Knowing the 737-9 series has a similar risk and uses a tail stand, is there not something similar for the 321neo? It wasn't a huge deal, but it was an extra 15 minutes we had to wait for bags to get unloaded. |
Originally Posted by rflor
(Post 37045932)
Was an 321neo flight from FLL-ORD earlier this week. After we taxiied to gate, the pilot comes on the PA and says "we have a bit of a weight-balance issue and need to remove a bunch of bags before opening the door. Otherwise we run the risk of the tail tipping."
Knowing the 737-9 series has a similar risk and uses a tail stand, is there not something similar for the 321neo? It wasn't a huge deal, but it was an extra 15 minutes we had to wait for bags to get unloaded. Has something changed about the way they load this plane? I have had several A321 flights in the past without any issue raised. |
Originally Posted by meijiem
(Post 37053088)
I had this happen too. The captain said it happened on the previous flight as well.
Has something changed about the way they load this plane? I have had several A321 flights in the past without any issue raised. |
Altitude question:
UA261 MAD-IAD the crew had Channel 9 on (thank you! -- fantastic to hear the entire journey of the flight rather than just the activity around a specific airport as I usually hear it) Not long after we hit land on the North American side of the Atlantic, around the handoff to Moncton center we were getting continuous light chop with occasional moderate and from the sounds of it everyone else at 35,000 around the same time was experiencing the same thing. I always assumed (I know) that ATC just assigned the altitude but noticed ATC offered a variety (IIRC, 34, 37, and 38) -- our flight went down, others went up (with a few requesting and being granted 39 and 40) -- what kind of factors go into making that decision? And is there any kind of significant performance/fuel impact +/- a few thousand feet or would they all be about the same? Bonus question what does "nonstandard" in the context of "VFR nonstandard 6,000" mean? (Heard as I was typing the primary question :) ) |
Originally Posted by lincolnjkc
(Post 37089920)
I always assumed (I know) that ATC just assigned the altitude but noticed ATC offered a variety (IIRC, 34, 37, and 38) -- our flight went down, others went up (with a few requesting and being granted 39 and 40) -- what kind of factors go into making that decision? And is there any kind of significant performance/fuel impact +/- a few thousand feet or would they all be about the same?
All else is never equal, however. Some altitudes will be turbulent, others may have icing conditions, other will be unavailable due to traffic. We'll also have a maximum altitude, based on weight and temperature, that we can't exceed. Bonus question what does "nonstandard" in the context of "VFR nonstandard 6,000" mean? (Heard as I was typing the primary question :) ) Magnetic courses of 000 through 179 fly an odd-thousand plus 500. 180-359 fly an even-thousand plus 500. IFR aircraft in uncontrolled airspace fly the same even/odd thousand but without adding the 500'. In controlled airspace, we fly whatever is assigned by ATC but they almost always use the hemispheric rule with few exceptions such as north/south in Florida. Above RVSM airspace (>FL410) the spacing increases to 2,000' increments. |
I noticed that red-eyes eastbound transatlantic flights can fly odd or even flight levels over oceanic airspace (probably because there are usually no westbound flights at that time of the day). I remember listening to Channel 9 on a LHR-bound flight at FL360 and as we neared Europe heard ATC asking our pilots to choose an odd-thousand level.
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Originally Posted by HkCaGu
(Post 37090661)
I noticed that red-eyes eastbound transatlantic flights can fly odd or even flight levels over oceanic airspace (probably because there are usually no westbound flights at that time of the day). I remember listening to Channel 9 on a LHR-bound flight at FL360 and as we neared Europe heard ATC asking our pilots to choose an odd-thousand level.
But I also got an awesome view of and photo of the Speedbird that was paralleling us for a good while... |
Simple answer…
Over the oceanic tracks (non radar) you can fly any published even/odd altitude for a given route. Once approaching land and entering a radar environment; “Shanwick” for Europe or “Gander” for Canada we must comply with the direction of flight even/odd altitudes for separation. |
Originally Posted by HkCaGu
(Post 37090661)
I noticed that red-eyes eastbound transatlantic flights can fly odd or even flight levels over oceanic airspace (probably because there are usually no westbound flights at that time of the day). I remember listening to Channel 9 on a LHR-bound flight at FL360 and as we neared Europe heard ATC asking our pilots to choose an odd-thousand level.
Here's the latest NAT message. https://www.notams.faa.gov/common/nat.html |
Operation Questions
Have an operations question with respect to how long a pilot can be on duty in a day. Here is the aircraft routing for today.
UA 3750 DEN-SMF departs 135PM UA 3778 SMF-CLE UA 3751 CLE-DEN arrives 308AM Flight hours 10.30 Duty time 13.5 but I assume duty time starts 1 hour before the DEN departure so they would add at least another hours. Is this a legal duty time or maybe there is a crew change last segment but most charters return aircraft to point of origin. |
Originally Posted by buckeyefanflyer
(Post 37162389)
Duty time 13.5 but I assume duty time starts 1 hour before the DEN departure so they would add at least another hours. Is this a legal duty time or maybe there is a crew change last segment but most charters return aircraft to point of origin.
For a 3-leg duty period reporting between 12:00n and 12:59pm, the crew would be limited to a 13 hour duty day For a report time from 5:00am to 7:59pm the flight time is limited to 9 hours, which is the maximum for an unaugment crew. Duty time start 60 minutes before scheduled departure for the first flight of a trip pairing and 45 minutes after a layover. That looks like a baseball charter. Neither the duty time or flight time falls within the restrictions so there will be a crew change. |
I flew UA486 MCO-CLE yesterday (June 22) on a 737MAX9 and we leveled off at 27,000 feet and stayed there for the duration of the flight. Weather was clear, no bumps. Was curious why we weren't up higher in the 30's.
Today's UA486 (also a 737MAX9) is filed at 37,000 feet according to FlightAware. |
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