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SF1K Jun 10, 2015 12:27 pm


Originally Posted by UA1K_no_more (Post 24949291)
I'm confused.
Did you mean "somebody changed my flight at 2:55am to go non-stop from MSP-SFO and a regional jet"?

And, assuming that after you got put back on the MSP-ORD-SFO itinerary, this problem occurred?
"And now of course the ORD-SFO is full in F (they upgraded somebody as I was waiting in line and put them in my seat) and the 777 only has middle-seats in business."

Sorry for the confusion. Yes I purchased MSP-ORD-SFO (P Fare). Partially because I had the time and think I'll be making 1K on segments this year so need to get to 120 and partially because I do enjoy the 777. I then upgraded using an RPU on the 777 from C to F.

When I went to board it said that I wasn't ticketed. And that's when I found out they had rebooked me on the non-stop from MSP-SFO, leaving 1.5 hours later. They offered to put me back on the MSP-ORD-SFO, but MSP-ORD was going to be coach (they had already upgraded somebody into my seat) and ORD-SFO was going to be business (middle seat in the center 4). Also checked and my original seat on that flight was assigned as an Upgrade to someone.

I've already emailed 1K voice and did get the RPU back, although at first they were - well they rebooked you in F on the nonstop, which is when I pointed out that I had paid for F so they refunded that immediately. But I definitely want the 1.5 additional segments, obviously RDM earnings is not any different anymore since it is based on the ticket $.

The ONLY good thing so far - the gate agent that was boarding my original flight that I didn't get on also then boarded the MSP-SFO nonstop and he apologized again as I boarded, that was nice of him.


Originally Posted by Often1 (Post 24949470)
If OP was rebooked from a connection to a non-stop and has his RPU redeposited, it's annoying and UA will likely toss some extra miles or a smallish cert his way, but it's the UG's which go first when a paying customer shows up, as most likely happened.

The only issue I have with that is that I wasn't just downgraded, but they changed my routing. And I still consider MSP-ORD (Airbus F) ORD-SFO (777 C) which I paid for not upgraded into to MSP-SFO (E175 F) a downgrade.

SF1K Jun 10, 2015 1:27 pm

Ok - I'm actually impressed with the response. A - the wording (they didn't make any excuses), B - how quickly they replied and C - the bonus miles.

"We are sorry to learn about your disappointment with the flight change
to your reservations. Your frustration is certainly understandable, and
we appreciate your taking the time to share your concerns with us. We
are focused on delivering great customer service, and your feedback will
help us as we strive to meet this goal. As a gesture of our concern, we
are crediting your MileagePlus account with 10,000 MileagePlus miles
which are valid for future award travel. These miles will appear in
your MileagePlus account within at least 3 business days.

Thank you for your support as a Premier 1K MileagePlus Two Million
Miler, Mr. SF1K. We look forward to welcoming you onboard United
again soon."

If I can get ORC as well, I'll call in once it posts then I'll be happy.

Bonehead Jun 10, 2015 1:50 pm


Originally Posted by milepig (Post 24949455)
I'd be livid as well, but the Contract of Carriage allows this...

Well I'll be a monkey's uncle.

eng3 Jun 10, 2015 2:59 pm


Originally Posted by SF1K (Post 24949898)
Ok - I'm actually impressed with the response. A - the wording (they didn't make any excuses), B - how quickly they replied and C - the bonus miles.
...

If I can get ORC as well, I'll call in once it posts then I'll be happy.

I would have thought something like this would have been deserving of an Ecert. I still wonder why they actually changed your flight. I've gotten OFFERS to change my flight lots of times but I still have my seat on my old flight until I accept it.

I see no reason why you wouldnt get ORC. It just seems to take forever and several emails before they understand. Hopefully your ticket got marked with INVOL

MatthewLAX Jun 10, 2015 4:20 pm

The response is good, but I find it still absolutely offensive that you were moved without notice.

SF1K Jun 10, 2015 4:33 pm


Originally Posted by eng3 (Post 24950387)
I would have thought something like this would have been deserving of an Ecert. I still wonder why they actually changed your flight. I've gotten OFFERS to change my flight lots of times but I still have my seat on my old flight until I accept it.

I see no reason why you wouldnt get ORC. It just seems to take forever and several emails before they understand. Hopefully your ticket got marked with INVOL

It does say INVOL on the receipt of the new flight.

kluau88 Jun 10, 2015 5:04 pm

At least you didn't post on the UA FB page otherwise the trolls would come attacking you and say you agreed to be rerouted per the CoC :)

Tchiowa Jun 10, 2015 7:32 pm


Originally Posted by escapefromphl (Post 24947739)
If you are not happy with compensation offered (I would be expecting $500-$1000) please file a DOT complaint.

Not sure what you'd complain about. The airline got you where they promised to get you in the time frame that they promised.

You can get the upgrade back but I doubt you'll get anything from UA other than a smile. Again, the OP got what he paid for. Did he get what he wanted? No. But if one flight is overbooked and they can move someone to a flight that has room and gets you there on time (or ahead of time) then someone (or a computer) thought it would help.

milepig Jun 10, 2015 7:39 pm


Originally Posted by kluau88 (Post 24951055)
At least you didn't post on the UA FB page otherwise the trolls would come attacking you and say you agreed to be rerouted per the CoC :)

I'll step in. He did when he hit purchase. See my playing above. Their right to change without notification.

mduell Jun 10, 2015 8:40 pm


Originally Posted by SF1K (Post 24949563)
The only issue I have with that is that I wasn't just downgraded, but they changed my routing. And I still consider MSP-ORD (Airbus F) ORD-SFO (777 C) which I paid for not upgraded into to MSP-SFO (E175 F) a downgrade.

Which you agreed they could do when you bought the ticket.

MatthewLAX Jun 10, 2015 8:48 pm


Originally Posted by mduell (Post 24951895)
Which you agreed they could do when you bought the ticket.

That is beside the point IMO, because they offered to move him back to MSP-ORD-SFO.

I don't like that a GS agent can bump a 1K from a flight just because she needs the upgrade seat for someone else. It was like the days of sitting row 15 on the PMUA 744...

UA may be contractually allowed to do what it did, but notice should be obligatory. Shame on UA for that.

keloutwest Jun 10, 2015 9:14 pm

Nobody's suggested this yet, but could this be an IDB situation? Sounds like the MSP-ORD flight might have been full, so they reviewed everyone's itinerary and put the OP on a different flight with more space (and that, in theory, the OP would appreciate).

JBord Jun 10, 2015 9:14 pm


Originally Posted by MatthewLAX (Post 24951919)

UA may be contractually allowed to do what it did, but notice should be obligatory. Shame on UA for that.

This is really the issue. It's not about whether UA had the right to so it, but how they did it.

Why not ask for a volunteer to switch to a nonstop flight that gets you in earlier? I'll bet there would have been quite a few takers, and then you have a win-win situation. As it turned out, the customer is unhappy with the experience and is telling others about it, and UA paid him some goodwill miles...a lose-lose that could easily have been avoided.

mduell Jun 10, 2015 9:23 pm


Originally Posted by keloutwest (Post 24952022)
Nobody's suggested this yet, but could this be an IDB situation?

Likely too late to find out/do anything about it.

milepig Jun 10, 2015 10:11 pm


Originally Posted by MatthewLAX (Post 24951919)
UA may be contractually allowed to do what it did, but notice should be obligatory. Shame on UA for that.

Read the first part of the COC - "Reservations are subject to change without notice..." UA is "obliged" to do nothing. The fact that they tried to restore the original itin shows that someone along the way cared, but there is no obligation for them to do so.


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