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mh3265a Jun 16, 2014 5:17 am


Originally Posted by fiddlestickies (Post 23040878)
This was one of those old 767's that has a beautifully updated Global First and Business and an economy section straight out of the mid 90's. I'm not sure if that's CO or UA, but the plane looked and felt OLD.

No I believe this is an int'l configured 757 which is pmCO staffed

UA-NYC Jun 16, 2014 5:34 am


Originally Posted by mh3265a (Post 23041300)
No I believe this is an int'l configured 757 which is pmCO staffed

No, that describes a 3-cabin pmUA 763 pretty well

SunLover Jun 16, 2014 5:57 am


Originally Posted by mh3265a (Post 23041300)
No I believe this is an int'l configured 757 which is pmCO staffed

OP did not mention his origin (only 7 hours of flight time, morning flight, and another flight 12 hours later) but UA is currently operating:

EWR-LHR as 4x 763 and 1x 777
IAD-LHR as 2x 777 and 1x 752

It could have been the morning 752 flight out of IAD, but it feels like it was the morning EWR 763 flight.


SunLover

dinoscool3 Jun 16, 2014 6:01 am


Originally Posted by mh3265a (Post 23041300)
No I believe this is an int'l configured 757 which is pmCO staffed



Believing doesn't always make it so. OP sounds like he was riding a PMUA 3-class 767. There goes the anti-PMCO talk :rolleyes:

hughw Jun 16, 2014 6:52 am


Originally Posted by fiddlestickies (Post 23040878)
This was one of those old 767's that has a beautifully updated Global First and Business and an economy section straight out of the mid 90's. I'm not sure if that's CO or UA, but the plane looked and felt OLD.

That was a UA bird. CO has no GF section. And all CO mainline planes look new or almost new. This board has turned into a PMCO bashing whenever things go wrong. As far as I'm concerned CO was just fined until we made the mistake of marrying up with UA.

halls120 Jun 16, 2014 6:58 am


Originally Posted by hughw (Post 23041629)
And all CO mainline planes look new or almost new.

In your opinion. While the pmUA 763s are old, the new sCO/sUA 739s look dated as soon as they lose the new plane smell.

JNelson113 Jun 16, 2014 7:03 am


Originally Posted by hughw (Post 23041629)
That was a UA bird. CO has no GF section. And all CO mainline planes look new or almost new. This board has turned into a PMCO bashing whenever things go wrong. As far as I'm concerned CO was just fined until we made the mistake of marrying up with UA.

You do realize that the management of the current combined airline is PMCO, right? Including the great Jeff Smisek.

cruisr Jun 16, 2014 7:10 am

Doesn't being short 2 FAs effect safety?
 
Dont mean to sound naive but if they can fly short 2 FAs and not be in violation of any FAA rules is the reason for those 2 FAs for service, not safety?

I just came back from BKK on a combo of TG F and LH F and it just stuns me that anybody at Willis Tower thinks that one would fly UA in GF unless they are made to.

Stuff like the OP stated is happening more and more. I have 1 RT to Europe in BF (got in on the 1400. P fare that was around for a few days) and had I not gotten that fare I would be on another airline.

JOSECONLSCREW28 Jun 16, 2014 7:13 am


Originally Posted by halls120 (Post 23040892)
On the flight I'm referring to, a supervisor came on the aircraft, pulled an FA off, and the flight service director made a point of telling us to expect less service because of the departure of the FA.

Normal FA staffing on CO 757s TATL is 6 so even if the FA was pulled from the flight, it still would've gone out with 5 FAs. 1 above the FAA minimum.

halls120 Jun 16, 2014 7:18 am


Originally Posted by JOSECONLSCREW28 (Post 23041717)
Normal FA staffing on CO 757s TATL is 6 so even if the FA was pulled from the flight, it still would've gone out with 5 FAs. 1 above the FAA minimum.

I'm sure that is the case, but the FSD wasn't at all happy with the decision, and he made sure the entire plane was aware of his unhappiness.

hughw Jun 16, 2014 7:18 am


Originally Posted by JNelson113 (Post 23041664)
You do realize that the management of the current combined airline is PMCO, right? Including the great Jeff Smisek.

I certainly haven't flown lately as much as some of you, other than several TATL flights EWR-CDG or AMS and NYC-SFO. Other than a single PS flight which was fine, all the others were on PMCO and they were pretty much the typical good flights we expected: clean and newish aircraft, good AVOD or seat back video, nice crews, great food in BF, and adequate in Y.

fastair Jun 16, 2014 7:24 am


Originally Posted by cruisr (Post 23041700)
Dont mean to sound naive but if they can fly short 2 FAs and not be in violation of any FAA rules is the reason for those 2 FAs for service, not safety?

I just came back from BKK on a combo of TG F and LH F and it just stuns me that anybody at Willis Tower thinks that one would fly UA in GF unless they are made to.

Stuff like the OP stated is happening more and more. I have 1 RT to Europe in BF (got in on the 1400. P fare that was around for a few days) and had I not gotten that fare I would be on another airline.

As long as they have 1 flight attendant for a single seat and an additional flight attendant for each additional 50 seats (1-50 seat plane:1 flight attendant, 51-100:2 flight attendants, 101-150: 3 flight attendants...) then they are at what is required. Any less than this and no passengers can be on the aircraft. That is the FAA minimum staffing for safety (passenger count does not factor in. A plane with 300 seats and 1 passenger still needs 6 flight attendants to be at the required staffing.) An airline can set any staffing levels at or above this for their SOP levels.

YoYoGodMom Jun 16, 2014 7:36 am


Originally Posted by fiddlestickies (Post 23039196)
9. They were only serving juice, water, tea and coffee plus alcoholic drinks. No soda for some reason?

I ordered ginger ale last month on a TPAC flight. I was not given the full can. Not to mention it was only HALF of the cup. :confused:

JOSECONLSCREW28 Jun 16, 2014 7:43 am


Originally Posted by halls120 (Post 23041738)
I'm sure that is the case, but the FSD wasn't at all happy with the decision, and he made sure the entire plane was aware of his unhappiness.

I wouldn't blame him. I've worked flights where a FA was pulled off and the agent explained the situation and I kinda gave her the "umm okay" look.

fiddlestickies Jun 16, 2014 7:46 am


Originally Posted by SunLover (Post 23041426)
OP did not mention his origin (only 7 hours of flight time, morning flight, and another flight 12 hours later) but UA is currently operating:

EWR-LHR as 4x 763 and 1x 777
IAD-LHR as 2x 777 and 1x 752

It could have been the morning 752 flight out of IAD, but it feels like it was the morning EWR 763 flight.


SunLover

You got it :-). EWR 763.


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