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Originally Posted by mahasamatman
(Post 22324984)
That OK, I can't understand anyone who considers them acceptable.
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If the airlines would simply bring back smoking on planes this would not be an issue. :rolleyes:
Simply take your e-cig to the lave. No smoke alarm will go off. Puff away! ^ Airlines also should ban gum, chewing tobacco, perfume, dogs, cats, kids and old people (myself included). :rolleyes: OK, the kids can stay, but 5 rows away from me. Old people 3 rows away.:rolleyes: Dogs and cats need to stay home or be put in the luggage compartment. Some people are allergic. If not, bring back peanuts! The only part of this post that is serious - puff away in the lave. It is not smoke, only vapor. The allergic part is correct as well. |
A coworker smokes ecigs in the office, i bought some for a family member - IME they appear completely odorless to neighbors (i am sure they still deliver plenty of harmful stuff to the smoker).
However from the airplane use standpoint i am somewhat concerned about vaporizing part - not the toxicity or smell under normal operating conditions but potential malfunction and either leak or fire... |
Originally Posted by mahasamatman
(Post 22324984)
That OK, I can't understand anyone who considers them acceptable.
Otherwise, it's just a little scented water vapor that escapes. I have several friends that use it and in any kind of reasonably well ventilated area it's hard to tell they're even using them. The smell would be a bit annoying on a plane (depending on the liquid) but otherwise causes no health or safety concerns for fellow passengers. |
Originally Posted by azepine00
(Post 22325090)
A coworker smokes ecigs in the office, i bought some for a family member - IME they appear completely odorless to neighbors (i am sure they still deliver plenty of harmful stuff to the smoker).
However from the airplane use standpoint i am somewhat concerned about vaporizing part - not the toxicity or smell under normal operating conditions but potential malfunction and either leak or fire... Its a battery and a heater. Less complicated then any of the electronics currently used such as ipad, laptop, phones, etc. If your worried about malfunction there is far more danger in those then an ecig. |
Originally Posted by mgcsinc
(Post 22325064)
I'm just confused as to what's unacceptable. There is no legitimate second-hand smoke concern. Indeed, there's no smoke. It sounds like maybe there's an odor, so maybe that's something, though the odor is probably arbitrary. I've never noticed an odor from people using them around me. Is it the smoky look?
Secondhand vapor from e-cigarettes contains nicotine but not other toxins: study FDA: Second-hand smoke from e-cigarettes may be harmful to your health Are e-cigarettes safe to use? New research shows metals found in vapor of electronic cigarettes |
Originally Posted by mgcsinc
(Post 22324893)
I hate smoking and cigarettes, but I can't understand why someone would find these offensive, unless they misunderstand the technology.
Smokers and drunk drivers share the same issues in that their actions selfishly affect innocent people. But, I digress. |
Originally Posted by DelrayChris
(Post 22325362)
They emit odor, chemicals in the vapor, as well as second hand smoke.
Selfish and passive aggressive. |
Originally Posted by mgcsinc
(Post 22325407)
There's nicotine in the vapor.
Acetaldehyde Benzene Cadmium Formaldehyde Isoprene Lead Nickel Nicotine N-Nitrosonornicotine Toluene |
Originally Posted by DelrayChris
(Post 22325414)
As well as many other chemicals:
To get vaguely back on topic: I wouldn't mind UA changing this policy. I'd rather people do it out in the open than hogging the lav. |
Originally Posted by DelrayChris
(Post 22325362)
They emit odor, chemicals in the vapor, as well as second hand smoke.
Selfish and passive aggressive. Second hand smoke. There is NO smoke - only vapor, which the smoke detector does not detect in the Lave, therefore it is not smoke. Are these prohibited on UA and almost all carriers? yes. Do people use them? yes. Move to CA and enjoy the friendly skies. (smog in LAX and fog in SFO) :) |
Originally Posted by kettle1
(Post 22325435)
Move to CA and enjoy the friendly skies. (smog in LAX and fog in SFO) :)
This forum is known to the state of California to cause... |
I'm extremely sensitive to cigarette smoke and I can tell when someone is smoking e-cigs before I see them doing it. Irritates my lungs. So I am relieved to hear that UA has banned them.
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Originally Posted by Kacee
(Post 22325567)
I'm extremely sensitive to cigarette smoke and I can tell when someone is smoking e-cigs before I see them doing it. Irritates my lungs. So I am relieved to hear that UA has banned them.
At least in LAS you have all the same except we in LAS have timeshare salesmen. Trump. :p |
My nephew started using e-cigs trying to quit smoking. I applaud his effort. But the kind he was using I found very annoying. Sounded like he was sucking on a bong all night with the gurgling sound it was making. Don' know if all are like that as is the only one I have ever been close to. Also found the smell unpleasant. I would not like to see these on planes.
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