Originally Posted by GoGoGoTom
(Post 22249163)
Or are 'account termination/closure' and 'all award booking canceled' destined fates no matter what kind of wrongs you may have done? I did a search and it seems most are closed and there aren't much room to negotiate
Originally Posted by LaserSailor
(Post 22249386)
Wonder if they were upset when they discovered that the miles still belonged to the airline ??
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Originally Posted by B747SP
(Post 22247477)
saying that the accounts were managed by a single person and that was a violation of the MP rules. A total of about 10-12 employee accounts were all closed and miles confiscated without any warning.
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How does this sort of thing affect the businesses :rolleyes:f award planners?
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Originally Posted by Often1:22252379
Originally Posted by dcpdxtrans
(Post 22252334)
I would be interested in this type of program too. I wonder how BA deals with the situation where 1 member is a 1K/Plat and the rest are silver /no status. As for downside I'd be OK not giving friends miles/instruments - - I'll give them a box of chocolates (& some extra salty nuts) instead!!
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Originally Posted by emcampbe
(Post 22251042)
I find this part quite interesting:
So one of the account holders got an email, with a simple resolution - all it took was providing an ID - presumably something that matches the address on file. And instead of saying - easy enough to do - they said screw it. So how does that work? |
Originally Posted by emcampbe
(Post 22251042)
I find this part quite interesting:
So one of the account holders got an email, with a simple resolution - all it took was providing an ID - presumably something that matches the address on file. And instead of saying - easy enough to do - they said screw it. |
Originally Posted by Xyzzy
(Post 22252883)
How does this sort of thing affect the businesses of award planners?
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Originally Posted by alex_b:22252990
Originally Posted by emcampbe
(Post 22251042)
I find this part quite interesting:
So one of the account holders got an email, with a simple resolution - all it took was providing an ID - presumably something that matches the address on file. And instead of saying - easy enough to do - they said screw it. |
For all of my latest award trips, the UA rep has asked for my pin. Add that to the customer's MP account # and you have direct access. The award planner is "managing" the account. Whether UA cares or not is a different story??? Apparently not, but wait until we hear about the award planner who go someone else's MP account canceled :eek:.
Originally Posted by Xyzzy
(Post 22252883)
How does this sort of thing affect the businesses :rolleyes:f award planners?
Originally Posted by mahasamatman
(Post 22253037)
I'm sure United is OK with award planners as long as they don't have direct access to your account, and there's no reason they should need it anyway.
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Originally Posted by thegrailer
(Post 22253235)
For all of my latest award trips, the UA rep has asked for my pin. Add that to the customer's MP account # and you have direct access. The award planner is "managing" the account. Whether UA cares or not is a different story??? Apparently not, but wait until we hear about the award planner who go someone else's MP account canceled :eek:.
Side question: What about purchased or earned via non-flying miles? If UA confiscates purchased miles is there a refund? What about miles earned through Chase CCs? I just don't know how that would work :confused: (I assume the account holder has a better case with purchased miles) |
Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
(Post 22253579)
If miles are owned by the airline, when one purchases miles, exactly what is the property right being purchased? How can I purchase something (miles) from an airline, but the airline continues to own the miles? How do airlines commonly make the distinction that they can sell you something that you can't own?
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I've known people who worked for companies that claimed all of the miles. The people simply never bothered to sign up for the FF programs. I doubt anyone can find a present day company that creates MP accounts for fliers and accumulates and uses miles flown by employees for its own benefit. |
Originally Posted by Xyzzy
(Post 22252539)
I've heard about a few of these situations and there never seems to be a half-way. It's always closed and done. There is no neg:eek:tiation. It's UA's program.
I've known people who worked for companies that claimed all of the miles. The people simply never bothered to sign up for the FF programs. |
Originally Posted by BH62
(Post 22253857)
Oh well, suppose Scrooge.Inc requires employees to sign up for any/all FF programs as a condition of employment. Just fantasizing.
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Originally Posted by TXbizman
(Post 22250113)
I see your point and noted. However, this relates to all of us managing 'spouse/children/infants/OP's small business account, etc' and UA need to explain what is right and wrong. No child's account managed by parents are allowed? No admin managing their manager's accounts, ect?
UA Insider or someone need to clarify or else we all making 'assumptions'... 1) using someone else MP number on own travel (rental car mileage posted to someone else MP to extend expiration date) 2) pooling of miliage (infrequent flyer's miles used to upgrade other traveler trip) 3) giving someone else access to their MP account for the sole purpose of scaming the MP program 4) Other violations of rules pointed out by earlier posters 5) the other co-workers gave OP permission to perform the action with their MP account Posters are asking why shouldn't they ask UA to re-instate the MP accounts with a warning. What are they going to say, that they were active participants is scaming the MP program? |
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