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RNE Mar 29, 2013 6:49 pm

I am a "Bronze" elite. Tallying the PQMs for flights I've already flown with those I will earn for paid reservations, the total is 14,444 PQM. I could so easily use my Flex PQMs to be Gold. But why? All I hear anymore is people singing the CPU blues. Why should I bother?

RNE, glad to be off the treadmill.

fjfv19 Mar 29, 2013 6:53 pm


Originally Posted by Devyan1 (Post 20505617)

Originally Posted by fjfv19 (Post 20505597)
I am not seeing where in my post I was complaining about the product?

It is just the new reality. CPUs are just much more of a surprise now than years past for some/most, however some of the other fringe benefits still remain and they have real value in my opinion. My post was mostly in jest but what is "the end"? Probably same place I'm at. I'm still going to fly United, just expect very little. I'll take my E+ seat and just move on. For the most part, United has gotten me where I need to be close to when I need to get there. I'll take the devil I know.

The laughing and the complaining were two separate thoughts

I was literally laughing because I loved your story about Bob

I was complaining about this entire thread

Understood :D

I think the problem is I've only been an elite for a few years since I graduated from uni so I don't know how good things used to be. It's certainly not as good as pre-merger but E+ is so much more tolerable than E-. Smaller sample size for me maybe.

whitethunder Mar 29, 2013 7:05 pm

Im 16/17, the one I missed was a LAS-SFO and it was booked F full at booking (seemed like a group of wealthy italians probably connecting from SFO onward)

wish CDN's were able to get a CC to try for UG's on awards....

hobo13 Mar 29, 2013 7:06 pm


Originally Posted by mitchmu (Post 20505187)
Not following. They inherited your status b/c you are 1K? Is that new? What role does the card play in this story?

Wow, Mitch, you have much to learn..... ;)

Others have explained it quite well. But think about it for a moment..... 4 of 6 seats on a 2 hour RJ went to friends of a 1K with a credit card. Offering CPU's to Premiers on award tickets is nice. Offering them to anyone on Premier miles is just another example of how CO really can't manage SHARES -- I can't believe they actually intend for it to work this way, but they seem powerless to reprogram the logic. There's reason why many airlines outsource this aspect of the operation.

Europeanexplorer Mar 29, 2013 7:14 pm

CPUs have been pretty good to me this year. I've only missed two out of 20+ (A319s on PHL-SFO and SFO-LAX). Most flights have cleared at 96 hours (even IAH-DEN on a K fare) and some HNL flights have cleared at 120 hours. :) I managed to get CPUs on several SDCs too.

LarkSFO Mar 29, 2013 7:30 pm


Originally Posted by hobo13 (Post 20505669)
Wow, Mitch, you have much to learn..... ;)

Others have explained it quite well. But think about it for a moment..... 4 of 6 seats on a 2 hour RJ went to friends of a 1K with a credit card. Offering CPU's to Premiers on award tickets is nice. Offering them to anyone on Premier miles is just another example of how CO really can't manage SHARES -- I can't believe they actually intend for it to work this way, but they seem powerless to reprogram the logic. There's reason why many airlines outsource this aspect of the operation.

All this really indicates is that the flight had literally zero elites booked, right?

My understanding is that the award ticket / Credit Card holder upgrades are prioritized below every other potential upgrader? (I admit, my understanding may not be correct. The process, at UA, is opaque. :))

PS mitchmu: If you don't have the card, get it. Especially if you will be burning more of your miles...

edit: I take that back. with your luck you won't get upgraded anyway... :(

garkster Mar 29, 2013 7:38 pm

Responding to the OP's original question -- 2/16 this year SFO-IAH and v.v. -- so NO.

Generally I fly Mon noon-ish to IAH and Fri 2:30-ish to SFO.

demosthenes1 Mar 29, 2013 7:40 pm


Originally Posted by LarkSFO (Post 20505761)

My understanding is that the award ticket / Credit Card holder upgrades are prioritized below every other potential upgrader? (

I don't think you're understanding is correct. I believe they are below every 1K, but above most Plats.

FlyWorld Mar 29, 2013 7:45 pm


Originally Posted by LarkSFO (Post 20505555)
Uh oh, maybe the world really is coming to an end! :)

Or, maybe the end of the world is stopping and we're getting a better world back. As you know, I've been involved in conversations at the highest levels of UA, and a lot of very senior people have been poking around my account records. All of a sudden, the problems have stopped, and I'm no longer being treated like an enemy combatant. I won't even begin to speculate on what happened. But, there are some early signs that things might be less screwed up now.


Originally Posted by hobo13 (Post 20505669)
Wow, Mitch, you have much to learn..... ;)

Others have explained it quite well. But think about it for a moment..... 4 of 6 seats on a 2 hour RJ went to friends of a 1K with a credit card. Offering CPU's to Premiers on award tickets is nice. Offering them to anyone on Premier miles is just another example of how CO really can't manage SHARES -- I can't believe they actually intend for it to work this way, but they seem powerless to reprogram the logic. There's reason why many airlines outsource this aspect of the operation.

I don't know anything about this part of the business because I've never intentionally flown with miles. It takes everything I've got just to fly 100K to qualify for 1K. By the time I'm done with that, I'm worn out. Thus far, I've used miles primarily for family members to fly in saver F. Hence, I've never paid much attention to the upgrade scenario that I've learned about here.

One thing I'm learning is that SHARES does a lot of things that a lot of people at UA don't understand. In almost every instance where I've raised a serious question about details of SHARES operation, it's required an escalation and a lot of research. I'm finding it to be universally the case that everyone at UA is concerned with doing their job, and I'm not sure if there exists anyone who truly understands the specific behavior of SHARES on a comprehensive basis and who has vetted and worked through that behavior the the policy stakeholders in each department.

It's as though we've got a bunch of IT people just running wild.

WineCountryUA Mar 29, 2013 7:49 pm


Originally Posted by demosthenes1 (Post 20505797)

Originally Posted by LarkSFO (Post 20505761)
.... My understanding is that the award ticket / Credit Card holder upgrades are prioritized below every other potential upgrader? ....

I don't think you're understanding is correct. I believe they are below every 1K, but above most Plats.

neither / incomplete -- award tickets eligible for upgrades are prioritized at the bottom of the appropriate status group.


Complimentary Premier Upgrades on award tickets will be sorted as indicated in the "Upgrade Confirmation Priority" section above, and prioritized after the lowest paid fare class within each Premier level. This benefit does not apply to companions traveling on award tickets.

LarkSFO Mar 29, 2013 7:58 pm


Originally Posted by mitchmu (Post 20505818)
Or, maybe the end of the world is stopping and we're getting a better world back. As you know, I've been involved in conversations at the highest levels of UA, and a lot of very senior people have been poking around my account records. All of a sudden, the problems have stopped, and I'm no longer being treated like an enemy combatant. I won't even begin to speculate on what happened. But, there are some early signs that things might be less screwed up now.

Man, you got the 'We love you' flag turned back on in your profile?

Lucky dog... :)


Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 20505833)
neither / incomplete -- award tickets eligible for upgrades are prioritized at the bottom of the appropriate status group.

WineCountry - you are an asset to this community.

What levels of elites is this benefit available for? All levels? Or is it just 1K, PP?

So, with your correction, hobo13's friends (with hobo's 1K status inherited) are prioritized above all PP's, Gold's, and Silvers awaiting CPU's?

TonyBurr Mar 29, 2013 8:10 pm

Worst ratio for upgrades in a long time for CPU and GPU :-(

demosthenes1 Mar 29, 2013 8:18 pm


Originally Posted by WineCountryUA (Post 20505833)
neither / incomplete -- award tickets eligible for upgrades are prioritized at the bottom of the appropriate status group.

I knew someone would be along to improve my answer. Thanks, Wine!

njcommodore Mar 29, 2013 8:36 pm


Originally Posted by LarkSFO (Post 20505877)
What levels of elites is this benefit available for? All levels? Or is it just 1K, PP?

All levels


Originally Posted by LarkSFO (Post 20505877)
So, with your correction, hobo13's friends (with hobo's 1K status inherited) are prioritized above all PP's, Gold's, and Silvers awaiting CPU's?

yep

hobo13 Mar 29, 2013 8:53 pm


Originally Posted by LarkSFO (Post 20505877)
So, with your correction, hobo13's friends (with hobo's 1K status inherited) are prioritized above all PP's, Gold's, and Silvers awaiting CPU's?

And thus they cleared at the 1K window. Perhaps the end of the window, but still the window.....

Everybody should want to be my friend! But not fly WITH me. Cause I don't actually get CPUs (much) anymore.


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