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Originally Posted by mgcsinc
(Post 20694836)
Upthread, or in another thread, there was some discussion that I'd like to re-open. People make a lot of cheap corporate Y fares, TOD's, etc., but posts like this about enormous lists -- and there are many such posts -- suggest that part of the problem is good old fashioned swelling of the elite ranks.
I think there's a colorable argument that the merger has permitted people to concentrate more of their travel on UA, and that's part of why people are feeling so much pain in terms of CPU's. So why is revenue performance so bad? UA trails everyone in yield/PRASM growth? Only explanation I can give is that while the number of folks able to hit an upgrade list (silver...) swelled, many folks who were GS/iK and spend lots of money have fled UA. Those who paid more, or were not captive, and therefore able to move have left. Leaving the IAH/EWR/CLE folks stuck with the "new UA" :eek: |
Not for me. DEN-ATL today on an ERJ-170. 6F/64Y seats. F is "sold out" with 1 upgraded and the Upgrade list is 37 people long. I'm #6 on a W fare.
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Originally Posted by limey1K
(Post 20705008)
Not for me. DEN-ATL today on an ERJ-170. 6F/64Y seats. F is "sold out" with 1 upgraded and the Upgrade list is 37 people long. I'm #6 on a W fare.
To run an ERJ essentially cross-country is insane. To expect CPUs with only 6 F seats is also asking a lot. To run such a small plane when more than half of the flight is Elite is also insane. |
Originally Posted by aacharya
(Post 20705041)
A few issues with this, both on CPU expectation and choice of plane.
To run an ERJ essentially cross-country is insane. To expect CPUs with only 6 F seats is also asking a lot. To run such a small plane when more than half of the flight is Elite is also insane. I didn't expect a CPU. Just posting my experience today. Not sure why I bother, really. |
1K not all that nifty anymore
I'm starting to realize that unless I use a RPU or GPU, upgrades are pretty much a non-starter anymore. Hub to hub I'm getting nowhere on mainline aircraft. As an EXP on AA I virtually never missed in 2012 during the challenge as a status-matched EXP. last week 319 ORD to DFW, missed one way by one rank (1st on list no availability). Return- 4th. Today 737-800 with 16 seats, 17th on the list.
A few more months of this and going to make the final move to AA. |
Originally Posted by limey1K
(Post 20705112)
Not a lot of choice on the flight choice, I'm afraid. Co-worker is arriving at the same time and needed to book a flight that coordinated arrival times.
I didn't expect a CPU. Just posting my experience today. Not sure why I bother, really. |
Originally Posted by limey1K
(Post 20705112)
Not a lot of choice on the flight choice, I'm afraid. Co-worker is arriving at the same time and needed to book a flight that coordinated arrival times.
I didn't expect a CPU. Just posting my experience today. Not sure why I bother, really. |
Originally Posted by aacharya
(Post 20705539)
My experience is in my signature. I think it's great to inform others.
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I had a very nice battlefield CPU experience on MSP-SFO (L fare).
F on the 737-700 was booked 10/12 before the upgrade windows. At the GS window, a couple was upgraded and F was booked full. It remained that way until about T-48, when someone changed/canceled and it went to 11/12. The buy-up offer then appeared as follows: Within booking: $537 OLCI: $429 Kiosk: $429 I was #1 on the waitlist and stayed there, waiting with bated breath for someone else on a higher fare to bump me or for someone to bite on the buy-up. Another thread discussed how the EUA process might run within 3 hours of departure now, whereas it wouldn't before. I was very pleasantly surprised for my upgrade to clear 50 minutes before departure. ^ 14 names were left on the waitlist at boarding (including a few non-revs), so it wasn't the most elite-heavy flight. Still, I considered the upgrade to be quite a bonus. Moral of the story: Even if F is booked full before nearly anyone gets upgraded at the windows, anything is possible! |
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Originally Posted by GoAmtrak
I had a very nice battlefield CPU experience on MSP-SFO (L fare).
F on the 737-700 was booked 10/12 before the upgrade windows. At the GS window, a couple was upgraded and F was booked full. It remained that way until about T-48, when someone changed/canceled and it went to 11/12. The buy-up offer then appeared as follows: Within booking: $537 OLCI: $429 Kiosk: $429 I was #1 on the waitlist and stayed there, waiting with bated breath for someone else on a higher fare to bump me or for someone to bite on the buy-up. Another thread discussed how the EUA process might run within 3 hours of departure now, whereas it wouldn't before. I was very pleasantly surprised for my upgrade to clear 50 minutes before departure. ^ 14 names were left on the waitlist at boarding (including a few non-revs), so it wasn't the most elite-heavy flight. Still, I considered the upgrade to be quite a bonus. Moral of the story: Even if F is booked full before nearly anyone gets upgraded at the windows, anything is possible! There's typically a "decent" P fare for that route too |
Originally Posted by bmvaughn
(Post 20705865)
How'd you miss one PHL-SEA? US flies that, not UA.
Originally Posted by diditclear
(Post 20690839)
Thanks! :)
I am hoping to grow the user base beyond FTers. The initial seed for the vision on how statistics should be collected had to come from here, since this community combines all of the experts who know best the topic. But there is another community of frequent flyers who are not here, who are still interested in keeping such tabs. The blend of both worlds should un-bias the results, at least to some extent, provided we can reach out to them. All flights with "Z" were upgraded (without using RPU or GPUs) - I removed the UA Express flights. 5/8/2013 United 376-ZG class Chicago (ORD)-Philadelphia 678 0 678 1,356 678 1 5/7/2013 United 507-G class Philadelphia-Chicago (ORD) 678 0 678 1,356 678 1 5/7/2013 United 1512-ZG class Chicago (ORD)-Portland 1,739 0 1,739 3,478 1,739 1 5/7/2013 United 360-ZG class Portland-Chicago (ORD) 1,739 0 1,739 3,478 1,739 1 5/1/2013 United 816-G class Washington (IAD)-Seattle 2,306 0 2,306 4,612 2,306 1 5/1/2013 United 1696-ZK class Seattle-Washington (IAD) 2,306 0 2,306 4,612 2,306 1 4/30/2013 United 1496-G class San Francisco-New York/Newark 2,565 0 2,565 5,130 2,565 1 4/27/2013 United 722-ZG class New York/Newark-Los Angeles 2,454 0 2,454 4,908 2,454 1 4/20/2013 United 264-ZG class Denver-Philadelphia 1,557 0 1,557 3,114 1,557 1 4/19/2013 United 383-ZG class Honolulu-Denver 3,365 0 3,365 6,730 3,365 1 4/15/2013 United 445-G class Philadelphia-San Francisco 2,521 0 2,521 5,042 2,521 1 4/15/2013 United 300-ZG class San Francisco-Honolulu 2,398 0 2,398 4,796 2,398 1 4/3/2013 United 1581-K class New York/Newark-Seattle 2,401 0 2,401 4,802 2,401 1 4/3/2013 United 1444-ZK class Seattle-New York/Newark 2,401 0 2,401 4,802 2,401 1 |
Originally Posted by demkr
(Post 20743587)
There's typically a "decent" P fare for that route too
I've had decent luck even with the A319, but I'm usually flying on Sundays and not Mondays, Thursdays, etc. |
I am 0/6 (0%) as a 1K traveling SFO-IAH and vice versa. Much worse than PMCO. :mad:
Just too many GS now on the merged carrier and too many passengers connecting to international C/F. On the plus side I was only 4th on the list the last 2 flights, which is better than the mid-20s on the IAD flights :( |
Originally Posted by Boraxo
(Post 20744217)
I am 0/4 (0%) as a 1K traveling SFO-IAH and vice versa. Much worse than PMCO. :mad:
Originally Posted by Boraxo
(Post 20744217)
Just too many GS now on the merged carrier and too many passengers connecting to international C/F.
Most of the HVF's have left UA (which would include GS' and Int'l C/F flyers...) |
Originally Posted by LarkSFO
(Post 20744404)
Wait, you're contradicting the narrative!
Most of the HVF's have left UA (which would include GS' and Int'l C/F flyers...) |
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