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June 2012 DOT Data Released
Official Release: http://airconsumer.dot.gov/reports/2...012AugATCR.pdf
More of the same poor performance as we've been seeing for the past few months:
What's scary about this is the margin by which UA is doing poorly. Not only is UA 10% below the average in on time at 69.9% (vs. 80.7% average), they're more than 10 points below the next lowest mainline carrier (AA at 80.3%). Similarly, the IDB rate is not just worse than everybody else's, it's double the average (2.11 vs. 1.05), double the next mainline carrier (WN at 1.05), and close to triple the next network carrier (US at 0.76). Same goes for complaint rate -- while the average is 1.87, UA comes in more than 3 times that at 6.86. The next worst carrier has just over 1/3 of UA's rate (US at 2.50). |
Interesting with the unofficial results I posted for July, it furthers the downward trend of on-time arrivals. I wonder if August can finally stop (or at least slow) the bleeding...
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note the most chronically delayed flights are all COEX except for the one WN flight
MIshandled bags 80% higher than AA IDB from 0.93 last year to 2.11 this year. complaints/100k UA:6.86 AA 1.37 |
We're going to need several more months like this before we'll begin to see changes we like.
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Interesting -- AA had more weather delays but still had a much better on-time performances than UA. Took 5 carriers and compared them.
Ontime UA - 70.11% (5) US - 86.16% (1) DL - 85.49% (2) AA - 79.81% (3) WN - 79.85% (4) Causes of Delay Air Carrier Delay UA - 9.70% (5) US - 4.08% (1) DL - 4.54% (2) AA - 5.82% (3) WN - 6.23% (4) Extreme Weather Delay UA - 0.49% (4) US - 0.24% (1) DL - 0.41% (3) AA - 1.28% (5) WN - 0.36% (2) National Aviation System Delay UA - 8.26% (5) US - 5.56% (3) DL - 4.67% (2) AA - 5.65% (4) WN - 3.00% (1) Security Delay UA - 0.06% (3) US - 0.08% (4) DL - 0.00% (1) AA - 0.04% (2) WN - 0.08% (4) Late Arriving Aircraft Delay UA - 9.47% (4) US - 2.88% (1) DL - 4.21% (2) AA - 5.43% (3) WN - 9.62% (5) |
United is failing on every measurable stat I can think of, certainly everything the DOT measures they are well behind the competition. Their most recent quarter and this past month's financial performance (yield) show them to be falling even further behind their major competition (DL,AA).
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Originally Posted by channa
(Post 19089096)
1. To what extent is baggage mishandling due to incompetence and to what extent is it linked with delays, cancellations, and other IRROPS? In other words, are they destroying and misplacing and delaying baggage because of these other factors, or even if we correct those factors, would they still have the worst track record? If the latter, then what's the root cause? 2. Is the huge IDB rate due to conscious policy to over-book planes far more aggressively than any other carrier? If so, this metric points squarely to bad policy decisions aimed at maximizing near term profit no matter what the consequences elsewhere?
Originally Posted by dsquared37
(Post 19089457)
We're going to need several more months like this before we'll begin to see changes we like.
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Originally Posted by mitchmu
(Post 19089598)
It will be worth the wait to see this team of buffoons thrown on the street, hopefully without golden parachutes.
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I say the scariest part is how does United Airlines/United Express get close to 50 percent of all complaints in June 2012
612 Total UA/UX Complaints vs. 1353 for all US airlines combined complaints Hey Smi/J, that's 45 percent @:-)@:-)@:-) Pretty sure DOT complaints aren't changes I Like :D I can't wait to see the July 2012 stats, who wants to place bets on the percentage especially with 4 Miles Island ;) |
Originally Posted by dsquared37
(Post 19089457)
We're going to need several more months like this before we'll begin to see changes we like.
It seems like Jeffrey and his team are still blinded by their past ways. Only two years ago, this was the headline: United Airlines (Chicago) announced the company was – for the second consecutive year – first in on-time performance for domestic scheduled flights among America’s five largest global carriers for 2010. United ended the year with 85.2 percent of flights arriving at their destinations within 14 minutes of the scheduled arrival time, according to data published by the U.S. Department of Transportation (DOT) in the Air Travel Consumer report released today. |
Originally Posted by Short hair Francis
(Post 19089722)
I can't wait to see the July 2012 stats, who wants to place bets on the percentage especially with 4 Miles Island ;)
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Originally Posted by mitchmu
(Post 19089589)
2. Is the huge IDB rate due to conscious policy to over-book planes far more aggressively than any other carrier? If so, this metric points squarely to bad policy decisions aimed at maximizing near term profit no matter what the consequences elsewhere?
DL also overbooks aggressively, but DL has nowhere near the IDB numbers that UA has: VDB rate: DL: 10.50 UA: 10.66 IDB rate: DL: 0.38 UA: 2.11 That makes me think it's possible to get enough VDBs if the conditions are right. |
Originally Posted by channa
(Post 19090005)
IDB rate:
DL: 0.38 UA: 2.11 That makes me think it's possible to get enough VDBs if the conditions are right. |
Originally Posted by channa
(Post 19090005)
I think this one is two-fold. Yes, they overbook aggressively, but they also don't handle DBs well.
DL also overbooks aggressively, but DL has nowhere near the IDB numbers that UA has: VDB rate: DL: 10.50 UA: 10.66 IDB rate: DL: 0.38 UA: 2.11 That makes me think it's possible to get enough VDBs if the conditions are right. The decision to over-book is one thing. If they over-book and convert those to VDB, it means the PAX are satisfied, because the "voluntarily" took an offer and most people won't volunteer to take something they don't want. So, this means that COdbaUA is actually making a conscious decision NOT to offer the level of compensation that DL is offering, that makes a flyer feel OK with being denied boarding. Rather, they are just grabbing them and throwing them off the plane, and probably spitting on them while they hit the tarmac. There are regulations for minimum allowable compensation in IDB cases, right? So, this means that, most likely, CO has decided that they won't pay more than the minimum required by law, and that DL is probably paying more than the minimum required by law, to convert IDB to VDB and end up with a happy PAX. Seem right? |
Originally Posted by AeroWesty
(Post 19090057)
Interesting that UA had the highest IDB rate while at the same time they also had a financially significant lower than predicted use of issued tickets. I wonder what the corollary is there.
Well, it's a different metric. That predicted use formula is calculating the percentage of revenue that's been used, so it doesn't mean that the ticket is not flown in that they have a no show. If a ticket is not flown and the revenue is kept, then that would be considered used and they could recognize that revenue at the time the ticket is cancelled (i.e., changes must be made by time of travel or ticket has no value). What that formula represents in the context of them having to warn on profits like they did a few weeks ago is that they used materially fewer tickets than they had statistically anticipated. What that suggests to me is that they had a higher rate of advance purchases, and a lower rate of closer-in purchases than they had previously, which is what they based their estimates on. That would also seem to jive with the anecdotal evidence of business customers leaving, not to mention the evidence demonstrated by the lower financial results, as business customers tend to pay higher fares and book closer in.
Originally Posted by mitchmu
(Post 19090132)
So, this means that COdbaUA is actually making a conscious decision NOT to offer the level of compensation that DL is offering, that makes a flyer feel OK with being denied boarding.
However, I have seen a number of lowball offers from COdbaUA that are for $200 for an overnight. While it may work in some cases, it may not work so well in others.
Originally Posted by mitchmu
(Post 19090132)
There are regulations for minimum allowable compensation in IDB cases, right? So, this means that, most likely, CO has decided that they won't pay more than the minimum required by law, and that DL is probably paying more than the minimum required by law, to convert IDB to VDB and end up with a happy PAX.
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