Miles for throw away segment ticket on a through flight
 

Does anyone have experience with throw away segment on a through flight?

MSY-SFO-LAX on a through flight. I intend to fly only MSY-SFO. Would I still get miles for MSY-SFO? MSY-SFO is actually longer than MSY-LAX. There's a change of aircraft, but I believe UA probably issues one coupon for the through flight.

If credited to UA you get the actual flown miles anyways for each segment, even before you deal with the throw-away issue.

The OP said it is a single flight number. In the OP's PNR, I think there is only 1 segment. In the usual case, he will only get the MSY-LAX credit. If he gets off half way, how would that work?

I guess the possibilities (in the order likelihood in my guess) are:

1 - no credit - segment in PNR marked no show
2 - MSY-LAX (full credit)
3 - MSY-SFO (segment flown)

Not sure how many segments are on the OP's PNR?

If two segments, then, yes, will get the MSY-SFO credit.
If one single segment on the PNR, then, most likely not. YMMV.

If ticketed MSY-SFO-LAX but getting off at SFO, you will be credited for MSY-SFO but not SFO-LAX. The single flight number has no impact (on UA).
(note if continued to LAX, the credit would be MSY-SFO + SFO-LAX.)

Regardless if there is a plane change in SFO, all passengers will leave the plane at SFO and those continuing will then board the new flight. If passagner does not board the SFO-LAX flight, there will be no credit for that flight.

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/unite...l-mileage.html

The OP will get credit for MSY-SFO and not for SFO-LAX so long as it is credited to UA, just like I wrote above. :-:

To me, the question IS the throw-away segment. I just went through that whole thread and I don't see any discussion on the situation.

The system must keep track of the 2 boardings to perform this logic. If the OP boards at MSY but does not board at SFO, would the system:

1 - consider the single segment in the PNR no show and award no miles?
2 - award only the MSY-SFO miles?
3 - award the PNR's MSY-LAX miles?

There will be two distinct boardings and BPs.

Presuming one flight #, but aircraft change @ SFO, OP will receive two BP. The second BP will be marked "through passenger MSY-LAX." Either way, remember no checked luggage as UA won't short-check to SFO.

Yes but there is only 1 segment in the PNR and if he flew the entire trip, only 1 credit consisting of the MSY-SFO+SFO-LAX miles. So:

PNR/Ticket Coupon segment = MSY-LAX
Boarded/flown segment = MSY-SFO
No show segment = SFO-LAX

What will the system do?

I hear that you are saying the skipped SFO-LAX will not be revelent.

What I wonder is that if the SFO-LAX no show will end up marking MSY-LAX as no show - thus no credit.

and why do you think this will happen? Anything to based the question on?

all evidence suggest UA handles this as separate segments -- besides the 2 BPs, and the accumulated mileage, there is another thing to consider is prior to day of travel, direct flights require both segments to clear for upgrades but day of travel either segment can clear separately. So day of travel the system see a direct flight as two separate segments.

Without knowing how the systems work, I don't know either way for sure. If you have seen evidences that support what you say, then that must be it.

I have the assumption that PNR segments correspond to FFP segments. Obviously there is some kind of parent-child segment structure in the reservation/DCS side to support multi-leg single flight number flights. I just don't know how they get rolled back into the FFP system for crediting if the OP only does 1 leg of the flight and it does not match the ticket and PNR.

On the system I know, the DCS generates a file for the FFP when the flight is closed. Unfortunately, that is all I know and it is not UA's system.

In this case, would FastAir generate the file (or the equivalent) for MSY-SFO or MSY-SFO+MSY-LAX when the flight is closed at MSY? To me, the MSY-LAX file should not be generated until SFO departure and the OP would not be in the MSY-SFO file.

Just out of curiosity, what if OP decides to claim credit for the throw-away segment? How can UA prove that he/she wasn't on the flight? How can OP prove that he/she was on the flight?

LAX

I have two (2) conflicting data points on this, but not using throwaway, rather VDB and authorized reroute. I suspect that this was a function of how the respective agents handled it.

Example 1: MUC-SFO (1-stop ORD). VDB on ORD-SFO, rebooked ORD-SMF, all miles posted MUC-ORD-SMF.

Example 2: STT-IAD (1-stop SJU). VDB on SJU-IAD, rebooked next day SJU-IAD. Got miles SJU-IAD, but never got miles STT-SJU.


So I think there's some merit behind what username is trying to say, in that the lack of presence on SFO-LAX may void the entire coupon (and the mileage posting entirely).

If you go ahead with that scenerio and all for just 500 miles/1 seg, then wouldn't you run the risk of being charged extra for skipping the last segment?(If there was much of a price difference btw MSY-SFO vs LAX). The credit for the last segment will only show after you hand over your BP to the GA and they scan it, so I don't see how you can try to claim credit on a "no-show".