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Originally Posted by Ari
(Post 21046204)
It seems that people are being denied for no reason at all-- we know this because plenty of these people are approved after an appeal or talking to a supervisor. Personally, I'd file a complaint with the DHS OIG in addition to a FOIA request and an appeal. I'd also file a TRIP application. You might drum up more attention by raising the concern that your interviewer's demeanor changed when he found out you are gay. It probably isn't the reason for your denial, but it might make them look into it faster because it has a discrimination aspect to it.
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Originally Posted by gobluetwo
(Post 21072744)
What's a TRIP application? Familiar with the other acronyms in this thread so far.
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Sorry to hear about all this. While a lot of other people have stated that the CPB is not going to dismiss you based on your sexual orientation, that doesn't mean the interviewer didn't. While we live in a free country, people often abuse their power to align with their personal views and while I'm saying that is what the agent did, it certainly sounds like a possibility.
I went to DTW for mine and the agent was extremely nice and helpful and the interview took all of 5 minutes. Hopefully you find out what happened that caused the denial, and hopefully it is soon. Very curious myself. |
Originally Posted by Eric Westby
(Post 21035865)
As I mentioned earlier in the thread, they asked my fiancé's name and DOB after my interview so they could "flag his application." At the time I didn't know what to make of it, thought maybe they were being helpful. In hindsight, I suppose it was so they could deny him too. Still seems odd that they'd be so blatant about it, yet be unwilling to tell us why we were denied.
Despite his various past good deeds, perhaps there is some event or other issue in his background--maybe significant or maybe not--that led them to consider your connection to him to make you something other than low risk. Of course, whatever it is he may not be telling you for some reason. I don't mean to be suggesting anything nefarious about him, or anything bad about your relationship, but I suspect there are many people who may not tell their partners/spouses about various life events that may be embarrassing or perhaps worse if they happened before they met. |
Originally Posted by drewguy
(Post 21079853)
A thought occurred to me - perhaps there is something in your fiance's background that is creating the problem. When you confirmed your relationship to him that created problems for you.
I think if anything I sullied him, not the other way around. |
Originally Posted by Ready2Go
(Post 20795468)
They ask for five years of travel history. Have you really only been outside the U.S., Canada and Mexico once in the last five years? That would certainly make yours a very unusual GE application.
When I applied for GE I had no international travel for the previous 5 years. |
Originally Posted by TomBrady
(Post 21090691)
When I applied for GE I had no international travel for the previous 5 years.
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Originally Posted by lovely15
(Post 21062755)
I had the opposite experience. "Didn't you go to Canada a few years ago?" "Oops, yeah, I did." Why "oops"? As I recall, the GE application both explicitly says that Canada and Mexico are not to be listed, and makes it impossible to list Canada and Mexico. During my GE interrogation, I too was asked why I had not listed Canada and Mexico and rather than apologizing, I pointed out the CBP officer's mistake. |
Originally Posted by mre5765
(Post 21094280)
Why "oops"?
As I recall, the GE application both explicitly says that Canada and Mexico are not to be listed, and makes it impossible to list Canada and Mexico. |
Originally Posted by TomBrady
(Post 21090691)
When I applied for GE I had no international travel for the previous 5 years.
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Originally Posted by PainCorp
(Post 21095598)
I haven't had any, and I got mine as a pro-active measure for work since we tend to travel internationally for several weeks at a time every month and a half.
also pre-check is the real benefit for us mostly domestic travlers. |
Originally Posted by TomBrady
(Post 21107642)
also pre-check is the real benefit for us mostly domestic travlers.
In fact I hold out hope that, even if CBP wants to rummage through my bags when I return from my infrequent trips abroad -- which they're welcome to do! -- I'll eventually qualify for TSA Pre-Check once they make it a standalone program. I may look sketchy when it comes to Customs, but ain't no way in heaven or hell they could think I'm a risk to safety. |
And as if on cue, three days after I wrote that last post, TSA announced today that they're making Pre-check a standalone program! I'll be first in line. :)
http://www.tsa.gov/press/releases/20...tsa-precheck-0 |
I hope you continue on with trying to get GE, and to understand what happened. For all you know, the same criteria will ding you again -- or your GE denial will count against you when you aplly for Pre. "Question 24: Have you ever been denied application for a trusted traveler program? If so, why?" :-)
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Originally Posted by abaheti
(Post 21127203)
I hope you continue on with trying to get GE, and to understand what happened. For all you know, the same criteria will ding you again -- or your GE denial will count against you when you aplly for Pre. "Question 24: Have you ever been denied application for a trusted traveler program? If so, why?" :-)
I'm already a member of Clear, and that involves a background check, so I can't imagine I'd be denied for Pre-check. As I said earlier in the thread, it's one thing for CBP to worry that I might try and sneak something through customs, but no one with my credit score is going to be mistaken for a shoe bomber. |
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