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Originally Posted by RandomBaritone
(Post 28915373)
I was notified of the denial by letter. I did try calling the station chief where I’d had my interview, but she was rude and unhelpful. After a few rejected FOIA requests I finally wrote to the ombudsperson politely asking for a review, and several months later that too was denied without explanation.
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Originally Posted by adventurer17
(Post 28915776)
I did not even get a denial letter :( Btw, did you travel internationally after the denial? Any issues whatsoever?
I did get SSSS once on my flight home from Costa Rica of all places, but I submitted a TSA redress claim and it hasn’t happened since. |
SSSS on an international departure to the US is almost meaningless as a suggestion that there is or is not a CBP problem. Perhaps if it happens 5+ times in a 2-3 month period. But, DHS requires that in addition to its ordinary selectees, the carriers pull up to 15% of the passengers per flight into secondary based on oddball factors and random selection.
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Originally Posted by RandomBaritone
(Post 28914805)
As one who was denied and subsequently approved, do you have any specific advice for someone who is considering reapplying?
As I mentioned upthread, my denial was in 2013, and I’m thinking of reapplying in 2018. I’ve had zero law enforcement or customs issues throughout my life, nor have I visited any countries on terror alert lists, which is why my denial was puzzling. Personal opinion, I'd speculate that re-applying -without- knowing what caused your denial (as I was able to determine in my case-- Took well over a year) might have a somewhat low chance of success. |
Originally Posted by JonNYC
(Post 28916811)
I retained a lawyer, FOIA'd every agency, found what was in my file and there was some court time involved as well (that was actually most directly related to the FOI requests.) While I'm personally very glad I undertook the project, it was lengthy and decidedly not free.
Personal opinion, I'd speculate that re-applying -without- knowing what caused your denial (as I was able to determine in my case-- Took well over a year) might have a somewhat low chance of success. |
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Thank you all for the feedback. I finally got the denial letter today that just says that I do not currently meet their strict standards. Of course, knowing more would be helpful, but oh well :(
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Originally Posted by ironmanjt
(Post 28913574)
This is unclear. Many people who have had it revoked - different than denied - report frequent if not constant secondary inspections for a period.
A revocation in almost all instances means that you violated program rules, which seems most often to be bringing impermissible items in without declaration. Even if you did this without GE if caught you would be likely to get more secondary inspections or scrutiny. So I don't believe that experiences with revocation are particularly relevant to denial. |
Check GE status?
I was told by a CBP agent at YYZ today that my GE would likely be revoked, because I complained about not being able to use the GE kiosks without presenting my card.
Is there any way to check on whether he actually followed through on the threat? |
Originally Posted by PlatinumScum
(Post 28973441)
I was told by a CBP agent at YYZ today that my GE would likely be revoked, because I complained about not being able to use the GE kiosks without presenting my card.
Is there any way to check on whether he actually followed through on the threat? That said it seems a bit extreme that you’d get revoked for complaining but then again it appears from other posts here that the level of tolerance is low and reasons for revocation somewhat vague and maybe arbitrary. I understand an out and out violation like failing to declare goods or food but the old GOES website and maybe new TTP website said or say your GE card is not needed for the kiosk. Personally I’ve never had CBP agent ask for my GE card but have been asked for it by airport employee line sorters. |
Originally Posted by Randyk47
(Post 28974325)
I don’t know if the new Trusted Traveler Program website shows if your GE has been revoked. It might as mine shows “approved” and I’m guessing that it was show something else like “cancelled”, “revoked”, “disapproved”, etc., if an agent actually went into the system and voided your enrollment.
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Originally Posted by ironmanjt
(Post 28974784)
Yup, it sure does. Mine clearly says "revoked" on the new site :/
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I was denied a few years ago. 'Didn't meet criteria'. My guess is because I applied a few weeks before ESTA rules were changed for people who had travelled to 5 certain countries - which I had done. (On a side note, anyone think this could be the reason?)
Didn't bother to appeal. Is there a general consensus on whether its better to appeal or simply re-apply? |
Denied Global Entry - No Reason Other than “Born in, Traveled to Pakistan”
I had my global entry interview on December 28, 2017. My CBP officer was surprised to notify me that I had failed because he was not able to find any criminal, civil, agriculture, immigration or any other violation for that matter. When I asked him why I was being denied, he stated because I was born in Pakistan and had traveled to Pakistan. He also mentioned that he would talk to his supervisor in a few days and wanted me to call him. I will be calling him tomorrow.He was confident that he would be able to get an approval for me as I had nothing on my record. I was also shocked when I heard the news because I have been the United States citizen since 2003 and I moved to United States in 1990 as a permanent resident when I was only a teenager, that is 27 years. As far as I have researched, it is unlawful to discriminate / deny an applicant based upon national origin. I am planning to appeal this decision after I talk to him tomorrow. Any comments would be helpful. |
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