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Mats Oct 30, 2014 8:12 pm

SEA1K4EVER,

I think the issue is that you set off the metal detector due to metal. So you're allowed to divest yourself of the metal and try again.

If the metal detector goes off with a "random" beep, you are sent to the full-body scanner.

I do hope that this change to the "random" procedure will be short-lived.

CDKing Oct 30, 2014 9:05 pm


Originally Posted by Mats (Post 23766607)
I do hope that this change to the "random" procedure will be short-lived.

They seem pretty set on it.

Mats Oct 30, 2014 9:35 pm

CDKing,
I hear you.

But they also seemed pretty set on backscatter, "only one chance" at the metal detector, children, the elderly, mandatory gate screening for every flight, and the "name game."

So I'm trying to be a little bit more optimistic. And I'm a deeply cynical guy.

TheCapitan Oct 30, 2014 10:01 pm


Originally Posted by iluv2fly (Post 23733888)
Random beep at Pre-Check at ORD (UA) this morning. Told new procedure was the nude-o-scope. Told them to forget it. Give me my stuff back and I'll leave.

The sup then asked if the swab was okay. Fine with that. ^

Same thing happened to me.
Beeped and was offered additional screening. I declined and the man quite happily (but not too happily lol) patted me down all over.
I much prefer that.

sogrady Nov 3, 2014 11:20 am

I've had both. In LAS, I walked through, somehow set off the metal detector with nothing on me, was directed to walk back through and instead of a beep got "selected" for a random at which point I was directed to the porno-scanner (opted-out and got a cursory pat down, where they chose to ignore the fact that I was still wearing my belt).

In SFO, got a beep and they asked me for a handswipe. Thirty seconds later I was on my way.

djibouti Nov 3, 2014 4:24 pm

tsa pre-check more "random" extra screening?
 
Add IAD to the list of simple soldiers just following orders by patting you down randomly.

gobluetwo Nov 4, 2014 1:14 pm

According to a TSA employee with whom I spoke last week, it is now SOP to send PreCheck passengers getting the random long beep at the WTMD through the body scanners. If a body scanner is not available, you still get the hand swab, as at LGA UA terminal last week.

CDKing Nov 5, 2014 1:13 pm


Originally Posted by sogrady (Post 23784658)
I've had both. In LAS, I walked through, somehow set off the metal detector with nothing on me, was directed to walk back through and instead of a beep got "selected" for a random at which point I was directed to the porno-scanner (opted-out and got a cursory pat down, where they chose to ignore the fact that I was still wearing my belt).

In SFO, got a beep and they asked me for a handswipe. Thirty seconds later I was on my way.

With the new protocol its supposed to be a modified body scan. Shoes and the like still stay on along with belts.

gobluetwo Nov 5, 2014 4:10 pm


Originally Posted by CDKing (Post 23797341)
With the new protocol its supposed to be a modified body scan. Shoes and the like still stay on along with belts.

That's my experience, also. I was able to leave my belt, shoes, sport coat on when doing the additional screening in the form of the body scan.

Upgraded! Nov 9, 2014 3:23 pm

And what's the deal for those with injured shoulders and the like? Any experiences yet?

CDKing Nov 10, 2014 10:28 am


Originally Posted by Upgraded! (Post 23816338)
And what's the deal for those with injured shoulders and the like? Any experiences yet?

They are putting people who cannot lift arm through the scanner with arm down.

Upgraded! Nov 10, 2014 5:58 pm


Originally Posted by CDKing (Post 23819978)
They are putting people who cannot lift arm through the scanner with arm down.

And then a perp frisk after? Almost feels like things were better for injured travelers before pre. New system totally defeats the propose. Only plus seems to be that getting frisked no longer seems to involve hands in pants.

Mats Nov 10, 2014 10:08 pm

Just went through the checkpoint near the entrance to the D and N gates at SEA-TAC. That checkpoint has no full-body imaging, so random beeps were treated with hand swabs.

I know which checkpoint I'll be using on my next trip!

CDKing Nov 11, 2014 10:08 am


Originally Posted by Upgraded! (Post 23822398)
And then a perp frisk after? Almost feels like things were better for injured travelers before pre. New system totally defeats the propose. Only plus seems to be that getting frisked no longer seems to involve hands in pants.

I got my armpit felt up

gobluetwo Nov 11, 2014 12:55 pm


Originally Posted by CDKing (Post 23825795)
I got my armpit felt up

I had a very cursory check of my belt, wallet in back pocket, and necklace (actually earbuds hanging around my neck). FAR less invasive than previous pat downs.


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