Originally Posted by guflyer
(Post 23697574)
Himeno, when you mentioned that there were random hand swabs in the precheck line, do you mean that people with the random beep received hand swabs or was this separate?
There were 3 line entry points. Precheck signed, priority signed and 'normal'. There was a TSO directing random people from the start of the normal line towards either the precheck side or the normal side. Each side had 2 TDCs. The precheck side had a ETD post set up with a number of TSO's operating it after the line split and before the TDCs. |
Originally Posted by Mats
(Post 23686169)
Here in Seattle, the PreCheck WTMDs are clearly calibrated at a much more sensitive level. I have a pair of timberlands with not the slightest identifiable bit of metal, but they set off the PreCheck WTMD. So I now carry "PreCheck Shoes." It's better than being barefoot. I wear running shoes now.
None of the other terminals (in my experience, although it's mainly been terminal C) at IAH, nor any other airport with Precheck I've been to, are sensitive enough for those same items to set them off. |
Originally Posted by phltraveler
(Post 23716863)
(two laptops so one needs to go in a bin, plus the shoes and belt being taken off).
I guess since they're not on top of each other, I don't get hassled. |
Originally Posted by Mats
(Post 23662363)
...One will have to be careful to avoid being in line behind crew members. Even when not on duty, they are exempt from random beeps...
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Originally Posted by Schmurrr
(Post 23722819)
Do you mean that, if the WTMD beeps on a crew member, TSA ignores the beep?
I could see TSA ignoring a "random" alarm for a crew member if they know it's truly a random alarm; that wouldn't surprise me at all. |
Yes, crew members are exempt from random alarms.
I was subject to the hand swabbing because there were random alarms but crew members set them off. So they had to attend to the random with the first available non-crew member. |
Originally Posted by Mats
(Post 23726220)
Yes, crew members are exempt from random alarms.
I was subject to the hand swabbing because there were random alarms but crew members set them off. So they had to attend to the random with the first available non-crew member. |
I had it at ORD. Nothing in my pockets. I got the nudeoscope and full pat down. Not happy.
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Random beep at Pre-Check at ORD (UA) this morning. Told new procedure was the nude-o-scope. Told them to forget it. Give me my stuff back and I'll leave.
The sup then asked if the swab was okay. Fine with that. ^ |
Iluv2fly,
You have more courage than I do! |
"Random" alarms in the pre-check line are now happening at SEA. I observed it happening at checkpoints 3 and 4 (not sure about the other CP's but my best guess is that its going on throughout the airport. Can't confirm that though). When the random alarm hits, they are directing people through the NOS :(
Also, I've seen the alarm go off on two people in a row at PDX. So if the person in front of you gets the random alarm, don't assume you are necessarily safe from avoiding it. |
...and TSA still hasn't responded to the 5,000+ public comments on the NOS NPRM.
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I have seen a significant increase in "random" WTMD alarms recently, with the selectee steered to the AIT scanner. When it happened to me this week, I refused the machine and got a patdown. No genital grope or karate chop though, and they didn't search my bags even though they said they were going to.
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Originally Posted by BSBD
(Post 23657871)
Yes. If you alarm the WTMD you are now not given another chance to go through it - it's an immediate shuffle to the AIT scanner. Plus, the random beep now means you'll likely get the scanner instead of a hand swab.
It was my brand new SPG Plat for Life card which I had put in my wallet..it's made of metal and it was the reason the alarm went off. So I now know I can't carry it in my wallet when I travel (which is kind of unfortunate). |
Originally Posted by SEA1K4EVR
(Post 23764039)
I set off the metal detector alarm at the PreCheck line at SEA on 10/22 and I was allowed to try again after taking my wallet out of my pocket... no one suggested I needed to go to the body scanner.
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