Jun 23, 2014, 10:17 pm
Last edit by: Boraxo
US/Canadian-issued ABTC can only be used to access the APEC/Crew/Diplomat lane. It does not replace/waive any visa requirements. Chinese embassy webpages mentioning visa not being required is for ABTC with CHN endorsed on the back. No US/Canadian-issued ABTC will have that endorsement.
The button to renew your US/Canadian ABTC will appear in your profile 30 days before the card expiration date.
Locations confirmed up and running:
AUS
BOS (Logan) only one of the two signature pads was working (late nov 2014)
BOS (Logan) still only 1 signature panel working, and a bit of confusion, but it all worked out (Jan 2015)
CVG (Minneola Pike)
EWR
IAD signature capture working in GE enrollment center; walk-in accepted after appointments accommodated - I was in the office for less than two minutes
IAH (outside security in E, no word on inside security GE office yet)
JFK (walk-in accepted; entrance directly across from Central Diner on arrivals level, T-4)
LAS
LAX
Long Beach, CA (downtown CBP Seaport offices, not LGB airport); posted as No Walk In, but may accommodate just the signature capture
MIA
MCO
ORD
PHX (Terminal 4, behind #6 baggage carousel)
SEA (Nexus office)
SFO (walk-in)
TUS (walk-in accepted)
Washington, DC/Reagan Bldg. walked in, only person there, signature captured, walked out, all within 5 minutes
YYZ (Nexus office)
YVR (Nexus office)
Usage Experience Updates:
BKK - 11/11/14 - success, 03/19/17 - success, 05/10/17 - success
CGK - 02/20/15 - denied (exit), 05/10/17 - success (exit), 08/20/17 - success (entry)
CRK - 10/28/16 - success, but only 30 days, not 59 days for no-endorsement US issued ABTC.
CTU - 03/18/16 - denied -(APAC lane has limited hours)
CUN - 12/30/17 & 12/27/19 - success (with family) but difficult to enter express lane due to pushback from line monitor
DMK - 9/20/17 inbound - success, had to go under lane ropes; use Official/Diplomatic, not Crew. No APEC markings.
DPS - 03/08/15 - success but with pushback (exit)
GMP - 09/18/14 - success, 03/18/15 - success (arrival)
HKG - 09/21/14 - success, 02/28/15 - success, 02/29/15 - success (exit), 3/18/17 success, 3/19/17 - success (exit)
HKT - 12/23 - success on entry - sign says +1 allowed and "THA" endorsement required, but didn't even check the back of card. On departure the APEC lane was not staffed
HND - 07/30/14, 03/30/23 - success - lane in clearly marked
ICN - 09/13/14 - success, 03/24/25 - success (departure)
KUL - 03/10/16 - success
MEX - 06/28/15 - success, 7/11/17 - success
MNL - 11/27/2015 - success (T1) (business visa not necessary for U.S. citizens) 59 days (depends on agent training. Most give 59, some give only 30, (Oct 2018))
NRT - 12/1/2014 - success both inbound and outbound immigration (visa not needed); 9/25/17 - inbound success
PEK - 07/25/14 - success (T3)
POM - 11/01/15 - denied, PNG immigration has a sign saying "only endorsed ABTC cards"
PVG - 07/24/14 - success (T2)
PVR - 11/2018, 4/2021 success (with family),4/2023 fail
SGN - 09/04/2014 - success (visa on arrival), 02/15/2017 - denied (visa on arrival)
SHA - 11/10/2014 - success
SJD - 6/2017 & 6/2018 - success (with family)
SIN - 2/3/2016 - denied, 5/3/2017 - success; 9/16/17 - success at APEC lane
TPE - 07/24/14 - success (T2), 9/30 - success (T1), 10/12 - Denied (T2), 02/24/2015 - success (T1), 5/11 & 5/13 - success (T1)
YUL - 11/2014 - success inbound (repeatedly into 2016 via dip line)
YVR - 06/2015 - success inbound
YYZ - 07/2016 - Success inbound
SCL - 04/02/2017 - Success inbound
LIM - 12/04/2017 - Success inbound
China land crossings from HK:
Lo Wu, Lok Ma Chau, Huanggang, Shenzhen Bay - 09/29/14 reported - success
China Train crossings from HK:
Dongguan and Guangzhou - 09/29/14 reported - success
Hung Hom (Hong Kong's International Train Station) - 04/30/15 - success in both directions
China Seaports from HK/Macau:
Shekou, Zhongshan, Zhuhai and Baoan and and Macau/China ferry terminal in Hong Kong - 09/29/14 reported - success
[On all above China-HK crossings look, to use ABTC to enter/exit China, look for the "Special" counters]
For CGK: Go to line marked 3 on left side just before main immigration hall. If you get to line in main hall you've gone too far. Do not use crew line.
Locations confirmed up and running:
AUS
BOS (Logan) only one of the two signature pads was working (late nov 2014)
BOS (Logan) still only 1 signature panel working, and a bit of confusion, but it all worked out (Jan 2015)
CVG (Minneola Pike)
EWR
IAD signature capture working in GE enrollment center; walk-in accepted after appointments accommodated - I was in the office for less than two minutes
IAH (outside security in E, no word on inside security GE office yet)
JFK (walk-in accepted; entrance directly across from Central Diner on arrivals level, T-4)
LAS
LAX
Long Beach, CA (downtown CBP Seaport offices, not LGB airport); posted as No Walk In, but may accommodate just the signature capture
MIA
MCO
ORD
PHX (Terminal 4, behind #6 baggage carousel)
SEA (Nexus office)
SFO (walk-in)
TUS (walk-in accepted)
Washington, DC/Reagan Bldg. walked in, only person there, signature captured, walked out, all within 5 minutes
YYZ (Nexus office)
YVR (Nexus office)
Usage Experience Updates:
BKK - 11/11/14 - success, 03/19/17 - success, 05/10/17 - success
CGK - 02/20/15 - denied (exit), 05/10/17 - success (exit), 08/20/17 - success (entry)
CRK - 10/28/16 - success, but only 30 days, not 59 days for no-endorsement US issued ABTC.
CTU - 03/18/16 - denied -(APAC lane has limited hours)
CUN - 12/30/17 & 12/27/19 - success (with family) but difficult to enter express lane due to pushback from line monitor
DMK - 9/20/17 inbound - success, had to go under lane ropes; use Official/Diplomatic, not Crew. No APEC markings.
DPS - 03/08/15 - success but with pushback (exit)
GMP - 09/18/14 - success, 03/18/15 - success (arrival)
HKG - 09/21/14 - success, 02/28/15 - success, 02/29/15 - success (exit), 3/18/17 success, 3/19/17 - success (exit)
HKT - 12/23 - success on entry - sign says +1 allowed and "THA" endorsement required, but didn't even check the back of card. On departure the APEC lane was not staffed
HND - 07/30/14, 03/30/23 - success - lane in clearly marked
ICN - 09/13/14 - success, 03/24/25 - success (departure)
KUL - 03/10/16 - success
MEX - 06/28/15 - success, 7/11/17 - success
MNL - 11/27/2015 - success (T1) (business visa not necessary for U.S. citizens) 59 days (depends on agent training. Most give 59, some give only 30, (Oct 2018))
NRT - 12/1/2014 - success both inbound and outbound immigration (visa not needed); 9/25/17 - inbound success
PEK - 07/25/14 - success (T3)
POM - 11/01/15 - denied, PNG immigration has a sign saying "only endorsed ABTC cards"
PVG - 07/24/14 - success (T2)
PVR - 11/2018, 4/2021 success (with family),4/2023 fail
SGN - 09/04/2014 - success (visa on arrival), 02/15/2017 - denied (visa on arrival)
SHA - 11/10/2014 - success
SJD - 6/2017 & 6/2018 - success (with family)
SIN - 2/3/2016 - denied, 5/3/2017 - success; 9/16/17 - success at APEC lane
TPE - 07/24/14 - success (T2), 9/30 - success (T1), 10/12 - Denied (T2), 02/24/2015 - success (T1), 5/11 & 5/13 - success (T1)
YUL - 11/2014 - success inbound (repeatedly into 2016 via dip line)
YVR - 06/2015 - success inbound
YYZ - 07/2016 - Success inbound
SCL - 04/02/2017 - Success inbound
LIM - 12/04/2017 - Success inbound
China land crossings from HK:
Lo Wu, Lok Ma Chau, Huanggang, Shenzhen Bay - 09/29/14 reported - success
China Train crossings from HK:
Dongguan and Guangzhou - 09/29/14 reported - success
Hung Hom (Hong Kong's International Train Station) - 04/30/15 - success in both directions
China Seaports from HK/Macau:
Shekou, Zhongshan, Zhuhai and Baoan and and Macau/China ferry terminal in Hong Kong - 09/29/14 reported - success
[On all above China-HK crossings look, to use ABTC to enter/exit China, look for the "Special" counters]
For CGK: Go to line marked 3 on left side just before main immigration hall. If you get to line in main hall you've gone too far. Do not use crew line.
US/Canadian Issued APEC Business Travel Card (ABTC): Updates, Experiences, Q&A
Nov 3, 2014, 8:19 am
#406
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 1
Hi,
I recently applied for global entry and spec business travel card and completed my interview at AmCham in Singapore (one of few places you can do it outside usa)
A global entry card was sent to my us address but no abtc. Is the global entry card and the abtc the same physical card or should I have received two cards?
I recently applied for global entry and spec business travel card and completed my interview at AmCham in Singapore (one of few places you can do it outside usa)
A global entry card was sent to my us address but no abtc. Is the global entry card and the abtc the same physical card or should I have received two cards?
Nov 3, 2014, 11:53 am
#407
Original Member
Join Date: May 1998
Location: NYC
Programs: AA 2MM, Bonvoy LTT, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 14,639
Hi,
I recently applied for global entry and spec business travel card and completed my interview at AmCham in Singapore (one of few places you can do it outside usa)
A global entry card was sent to my us address but no abtc. Is the global entry card and the abtc the same physical card or should I have received two cards?
I recently applied for global entry and spec business travel card and completed my interview at AmCham in Singapore (one of few places you can do it outside usa)
A global entry card was sent to my us address but no abtc. Is the global entry card and the abtc the same physical card or should I have received two cards?
Nov 3, 2014, 4:58 pm
#408
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 2,068
Hi,
I recently applied for global entry and spec business travel card and completed my interview at AmCham in Singapore (one of few places you can do it outside usa)
A global entry card was sent to my us address but no abtc. Is the global entry card and the abtc the same physical card or should I have received two cards?
I recently applied for global entry and spec business travel card and completed my interview at AmCham in Singapore (one of few places you can do it outside usa)
A global entry card was sent to my us address but no abtc. Is the global entry card and the abtc the same physical card or should I have received two cards?
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trust...xperience.html
Last edited by theworld; Nov 3, 2014 at 11:26 pm
Nov 4, 2014, 8:53 am
#409
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: SNA/LAX
Programs: AA EXP, Go Bears!
Posts: 233
Nov 10, 2014, 9:30 am
#410
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 112
Was it AmCham or US Embassy, because according to this post the OP got it through the US Consulate (although I think he/she means the US Embassy in Singapore):
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trust...xperience.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trust...xperience.html
http://www.amcham.org.sg/amcham-host...rd-interviews/
Nov 11, 2014, 8:57 am
#411
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: LHR GVA HKG TLV PVG JFK
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 3,963
New to this thread and struggling to follow.
1. Can USA citizens but non residents get the card?
2. If so process is get global entry and then apply for APEC?
3. Still need visas, e.g. for China
1. Can USA citizens but non residents get the card?
2. If so process is get global entry and then apply for APEC?
3. Still need visas, e.g. for China
Nov 11, 2014, 11:13 am
#412
Join Date: Sep 2014
Programs: GE/Nexus/APEC; EVA/SWA; Hilton; Avis
Posts: 11
I used my ABTC for a few months, never ran into any problem. However, an immigration officer at counter said to me, US issued ABTC is no longer good to use APEC express lane in Tao Yuan International Airport, as I do not have a pre-clearance, and Taiwan was not listed in the back of the card. In fact, no country was listed in the card, blank I should say. Tried to explain it to the officer, he's just not interested in my statement. He was "mercy" enough to allow me using it thru express lane today, and reiterated U.S. issued card is no good to use express lane next time. This never occurred to me in any other countries.. Any one run into this issue?
Nov 11, 2014, 6:18 pm
#413
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: SoCal to the rest of the world...
Programs: AA EXP with lots of BA. UA 2MM Lifetime Plat - No longer chase hotel loyalty
Posts: 6,699
Sent a message to apec.org's email contact us address for ABTC asking why Taiwan is rejecting use of the card for line expediting. Suggest others do the same. Sounds like someone has taken action without knowing that NO ONE is trying to enter Taiwan using this as a visa as US Citizens are visa free anway.
See if I get a response.
BTW: Contact info is here: under Business Mobility group; I pinged the contact with the Apec.org address not the rep handling from the Australian side who in on the committe... may hit him next
http://www.apec.org/ContactUs.aspx?t=Groups
See if I get a response.
BTW: Contact info is here: under Business Mobility group; I pinged the contact with the Apec.org address not the rep handling from the Australian side who in on the committe... may hit him next
http://www.apec.org/ContactUs.aspx?t=Groups
Last edited by NickP 1K; Nov 11, 2014 at 6:28 pm
Nov 12, 2014, 3:31 am
#414
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Hong Kong
Posts: 2,068
My understanding is that the American Chamber of Commerce in Singapore has been hosting interviews for ABTC. Please see below:
http://www.amcham.org.sg/amcham-host...rd-interviews/
http://www.amcham.org.sg/amcham-host...rd-interviews/
On another note, I see the following statements from the APEC summit in Beijing:
From the APEC summit:
"We commit to continue expanding the number of holders of the APEC Business Travel Card (ABTC) and to improve the efficiency and effectiveness of ABTC scheme."
"We support the End-to-End Review of the present APEC Business Travel Card (ABTC) Scheme, and remain committed to its further improvement and development with our concerted efforts. We welcome the in-principle agreement to extend the validity of the ABTC to 5 years. We appreciate the endeavors of transitional members of the ABTC Scheme to become full members."
Nov 12, 2014, 9:49 am
#415
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Tri-State Area
Posts: 4,728
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BTW: Contact info is here: under Business Mobility group; I pinged the contact with the Apec.org address not the rep handling from the Australian side who in on the committe... may hit him next
http://www.apec.org/ContactUs.aspx?t=Groups
BTW: Contact info is here: under Business Mobility group; I pinged the contact with the Apec.org address not the rep handling from the Australian side who in on the committe... may hit him next
http://www.apec.org/ContactUs.aspx?t=Groups
My email was to both the Assistant Secretary and the Secretariat....
Nov 12, 2014, 11:06 am
#416
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: SoCal to the rest of the world...
Programs: AA EXP with lots of BA. UA 2MM Lifetime Plat - No longer chase hotel loyalty
Posts: 6,699
More direct line here: http://www.apec.org/Groups/Committee...ity-Group.aspx
My email was to both the Assistant Secretary and the Secretariat....
My email was to both the Assistant Secretary and the Secretariat....
Suggest in interim use this service which has worked for me in Taiwan before: https://oa1.immigration.gov.tw/nia_freq
This can be issued instantly as long as you had 3 entries in last 12 months (it will do a compare to what Taiwan has on your passport #)
Last edited by NickP 1K; Nov 12, 2014 at 11:19 am
Nov 12, 2014, 11:12 am
#417
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 112
2) That is correct.
3) Yes, at this time the U.S. ABTC card does not operate as a visa, so you will still need to apply separately for visas to China.
Nov 12, 2014, 11:15 am
#418
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 112
Are you friends permanent residents of Hong Kong? If so, then they can apply to the Hong Kong government for the HK ABTC card. This would be more useful than the U.S. card, because it would provide visa-free access to China, Viet Nam, etc.
Nov 12, 2014, 11:29 am
#419
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 112
More direct line here: http://www.apec.org/Groups/Committee...ity-Group.aspx
My email was to both the Assistant Secretary and the Secretariat....
My email was to both the Assistant Secretary and the Secretariat....
Although, the Business Mobility Group does not meet again until January or February, so they may not be able to take action before then.
Nov 12, 2014, 12:29 pm
#420
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: SoCal to the rest of the world...
Programs: AA EXP with lots of BA. UA 2MM Lifetime Plat - No longer chase hotel loyalty
Posts: 6,699
I know both of those individuals. They should already be aware that U.S. cardholders are experiencing difficulty using the fast lanes in some economies, because I mentioned in our report that this is an issue that needs to be resolved.
Although, the Business Mobility Group does not meet again until January or February, so they may not be able to take action before then.
Although, the Business Mobility Group does not meet again until January or February, so they may not be able to take action before then.