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PTravel Apr 3, 2010 9:55 pm


Originally Posted by zitsky (Post 13704934)
Some of us very much do care about sitting with spouses, but we won't die if we're away from them for a few hours. YOU care if you sit next to your wife, therefore EVERYONE should care?

Not at all. As I said, in another post, people value seating positions differently.


My partner and I sit together all the time. Not too long ago he was offered an upgrade from C to F in the new UA configuration. I wouldn't have blamed him if he moved up. He saw the evil eye I was giving him and declined the upgrade. ;)
Mrs. PTravel has acquiesced in similar situations.


I think it certainly matters why someone wants to switch if they are asking me to get out of my seat. Do they want to sit with a spouse or kid, do they want to move from aisle to window, do they not like the person next to them, does their power port not work, yadda yadda yadda.
It really doesn't matter to me at all. There are rare occasions when the person's circumstance may incline me to switch when I wouldn't otherwise, e.g. infirmity, or old age. However, otherwise, I don't care if someone is apart from their spouse, child, parole officer or whatever. The reality of air travel is you don't always get what you want, and it's not my responsibility to see that you do.


The advantage/disadvantage of a seat swap may not be immediately apparent. As the story by dsweet shows, perhaps I swapped seats with someone and ended up without a working power connection when I really needed one. Suppose I notice this 30 minutes or so into the flight. It might be awkward to go back and ask for your original seat just to resolve that problem.
Correct. That's why I don't swap unless I know it's in my benefit.


PTravel, you seem like a reasonable person. It's all the unreasonable seat changers/requestors that most of us have a problem with.
True.

PTravel Apr 3, 2010 9:57 pm


Originally Posted by Rebelyell (Post 13705015)
As this guy told the story, the guy in 1E threw a "fit" when his power plug didn't work. And for what it's worth, if somebody refused to swap first class seats with me so I could sit with my wife, I don't think I would then swap with them so they could get power.

To be clear, the swap would be: you get to sit with your wife, the other pax gets his power. That's called "win/win."


I, for one, am willing to be less happy to prove a point.
Well, I guess we're just different that way.

FetePerfection Apr 3, 2010 10:14 pm


Will flight attendants ever order a single person to move to accommodate a couple? That would be interesting.
GA's will - twice I've been given a new seat assignment just as I was boarding - assuming it was an UG I accepted then got on board to find I was moved to a worse seat. After questioning the reason for the change I'm told so a traveling couple can sit together.

The first time I accepted the change and stewed about my rotten seat the entire 8 hours. The second time the FA said my beef was with the GA so I got off the plane and requested my old seat back or a comparable seat, which I was given. Seems this is the plight of the solo traveler.

PTravel Apr 3, 2010 11:51 pm


Originally Posted by FetePerfection (Post 13705126)
GA's will - twice I've been given a new seat assignment just as I was boarding - assuming it was an UG I accepted then got on board to find I was moved to a worse seat. After questioning the reason for the change I'm told so a traveling couple can sit together.

The first time I accepted the change and stewed about my rotten seat the entire 8 hours. The second time the FA said my beef was with the GA so I got off the plane and requested my old seat back or a comparable seat, which I was given. Seems this is the plight of the solo traveler.

It's the plight of the low- or non-status traveler. However, good for you for getting off the plane and demanding your seat back. ^

pinworm Apr 4, 2010 3:10 am


Originally Posted by ESPECIALROB (Post 13700622)
I couldn't agree with you more, Pinworm. One thing I have learned when confronted with a potential seat swapping request not to my satisfaction is to simply to pleasantly reply "no" and nothing further.

Giving an explanation or other conversation opens up more unnecessary and unwanted dialogue. You owe nobody a reason for wanting to keep the seat you were assigned.

This is my approach not only to seat swapping, but to just about every solicitation I encounter. Sales people often depend upon predicable answers and leading dialouge..best to not open up the communication to those tactics...

knifemein Apr 4, 2010 6:29 am


Originally Posted by PTravel (Post 13705423)
It's the plight of the low- or non-status traveler.

That has happened to me as an elite, so I agree that it's the plight of the solo traveler!

FetePerfection Apr 4, 2010 8:52 am


Originally Posted by PTravel View Post
It's the plight of the low- or non-status traveler.
Nope - I'm PM and still happened - when I tried to throw my status around all I got was an eye roll (silly me, what was I thinking?) so it seems status doesn't mean much either.

zitsky Apr 4, 2010 2:19 pm


Originally Posted by PTravel (Post 13705044)
It really doesn't matter to me at all. There are rare occasions when the person's circumstance may incline me to switch when I wouldn't otherwise, e.g. infirmity, or old age. However, otherwise, I don't care if someone is apart from their spouse, child, parole officer or whatever. The reality of air travel is you don't always get what you want, and it's not my responsibility to see that you do.

That was a nice touch. It made me laugh. :)

pogopossum Apr 4, 2010 3:33 pm

I almost always travel alone and rarely will say no to an equivalent or better seat change. On one flight I was asked to swap with a couple to they could sit together, which I did, and about a minute later after I moved to my new seat I was asked again by another couple if I could move so they could sit together. Regular musical chairs, it was. Luckily it was all a row back and forth in first.

Cheers,
PP

Spiff Apr 4, 2010 3:43 pm


Originally Posted by PRPechek (Post 13683330)
Last week I was flying AUS-ORD-DUB on a 777 and I was sitting in 17b (best E+ seat in the plane in my opinion.) My upgrade didn't go through but that was mostly because it was a last minute flight. The flight was packed and at the last minute a couple gets on right before the doors shut the gentleman sits next to me in 17a and his wife sits in 18d. As they are doing the safety video the gentleman explains that they just barely got on and they had been flying stand-by all day and "would I mind trading his wife for 18d."

I told him yes I would mind.

I explained that it was an 8 hour flight and I had a great seat and I didn't want to sit in the middle. I told him that if he and his wife really wanted to sit together he should ask 18e to trade as I am sure that person would jump at a chance for a bulkhead window seat.

He didn't, he just got up very huffy like and told his wife that I wouldn't and for the rest of the flight I got looks and the husband had an attitude and got up numerous times to talk with his wife.

Now I did feel a little guilty and I try to be accommodating on short hops, but I wanted to hear if anyone had a similar experience.

You did exactly the right thing, except you should have given him the "attitude" right back.

Non-NonRev Apr 4, 2010 3:47 pm

Wirelessly posted (Nokia E71-2: Opera/9.80 (S60; SymbOS; Opera Mobi/448; U; en-US) Presto/2.4.18 Version/10.00)

The only "wrong thing" is that you even bothered to give the lout an explanation....

TrueBlueFlyer Apr 4, 2010 4:21 pm

For the first time in my life I was finally seated next to a gorgeous young Italian girl on my KLM AMS-JFK flight last week!


Fantastic opportunity, but what do I do? I switched seats...


Call me crazy but I think it worked out best for everyone and opportunity lost was a small price to pay (not to mention prevention of embarrasment) I was among the last to board, my seat was right by the galley at the beginning of economy class and as soon as I noticed my seat my eyes were on this amazing looking girl which was already being crowded by a group of Italian guys sitting directly behind her. As I approached I actually asked one of the guys if he wanted to switch the eisle seat for a window, an opportunity on which he literally jumped on.


I always ask for a window seat, but this being a full flight there were none. After three flights that day (Breakfast in Madrid, lunch in Paris and dinner in Amsterdam) I wasn't exactly fresh so I didn't want to put anyone off with possible BO. And of course sitting next to two young women I knew they'd be getting up quite often for the lav....


the result: a perfectly calm and restful flight... although I know based on the past my next hundred flights will be next to a smelly old guy or some overflowing ugly woman. (no offence if they post on FT)


Oh well...

--Russ

TMOliver Apr 4, 2010 4:33 pm

Now, here's a question for all you confirmed non-switchers and few responding switchers...

Returning MAD/DFW (AA) in June, my wife's in FC and I'm in Biz. Who should ask whom?

Spiff Apr 4, 2010 4:56 pm


Originally Posted by TMOliver (Post 13708566)
Now, here's a question for all you confirmed non-switchers and few responding switchers...

Returning MAD/DFW (AA) in June, my wife's in FC and I'm in Biz. Who should ask whom?

As in where to meet up in DFW after the plane lands? Surely you wouldn't expect your wife to downgrade just to sit with you for 9-10 hours? And I really doubt you'll get any takers in F to downgrade either. Why not just let your wife enjoy herself in F for less than half a day?

PTravel Apr 4, 2010 6:50 pm


Originally Posted by TMOliver (Post 13708566)
Now, here's a question for all you confirmed non-switchers and few responding switchers...

Returning MAD/DFW (AA) in June, my wife's in FC and I'm in Biz. Who should ask whom?

Obviously, the swap should be your wife's FC for the swapee's C-class seat. You don't really think someone will trade a seat in F for one in C just so you can sit with your wife, do you?


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