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Sjoerd Sep 20, 2008 2:25 am

On a visit to NYC last week, I noticed that some restaurants are trying another scam. It seems that they are trying to get some extra money out of foreigners who are not fluent in English.
When the bill comes, it will say (example):

Food and beverages $ 100
Gratuity 20% $ 20
Total $ 120

Followed by (in BIG BOLD LETTERS)

SUGGESTED TIP:
15% $ 18
18% $ 21.60
20% $ 24


Many foreigners will not know the word "gratuity" but will have heard about "tip" and the general practice in the US to add 15 - 20%. By presenting the bill in the way described above, they are basically trying to scam the innocent visitor for a double tip. :td:

redbeard911 Sep 20, 2008 3:16 am


Originally Posted by wharvey (Post 10396120)
Not sure what you mean by the "done thing". Wouldn't you consider 17% tip enough? I would never leave more than that.

If they choose to automatically include a gratuity, then no reason to add more unless they did something extraordinary..... you may already be paying a premium to get the room service.

Agree


Originally Posted by Dole (Post 10396127)
If the hotel automatically charges 17%, and probably a fixed cost of another couple dollars in addition, I do not tip. If there are no gratuity charges automatically added, I give them a couple dollars for a tip.

Keep in mind that the fixed amount is usually straight to the hotel and a % is usually for the server.

I still agree


Originally Posted by Sjoerd (Post 10397066)
On a visit to NYC last week, I noticed that some restaurants are trying another scam. It seems that they are trying to get some extra money out of foreigners who are not fluent in English.
When the bill comes, it will say (example):

Food and beverages $ 100
Gratuity 20% $ 20
Total $ 120

Followed by (in BIG BOLD LETTERS)

SUGGESTED TIP:
15% $ 18
18% $ 21.60
20% $ 24


Many foreigners will not know the word "gratuity" but will have heard about "tip" and the general practice in the US to add 15 - 20%. By presenting the bill in the way described above, they are basically trying to scam the innocent visitor for a double tip. :td:

Shameful :td:

mjcewl1284 Sep 20, 2008 3:36 am

I make it a habit to draw lines through my amounts and put the $ right next to my total paid. Like '$40' not '$ 40.'

I usually go for even amounts like $48.00 and round up tips but instead of writing '$48.00,' I write '$48-------' (solid line to the end of the paper) so they cannot write anything else or change the 0 to an 8.

This works for me, no fradulent charges posted yet.

midway Sep 20, 2008 7:06 am

Tipping question for small amounts
 
If I have a small amount of $6.50 for breakfast in a restaurant, 20% would be $1.30. Would $1.50 be enough as a tip?

slawecki Sep 20, 2008 7:36 am

Back to the $45 or $47. the entry to the card company is not what you wrote, but what was keyed into the machine.

all this posting could be over a keystroke error.

my credit card billing sheet does not have phone listings for most charges. i just call amex if a problem. problems are extremely rare. less often than i would expect to see keystroke errors.

Diplomatico Sep 20, 2008 8:35 am


Originally Posted by midway (Post 10397450)
If I have a small amount of $6.50 for breakfast in a restaurant, 20% would be $1.30. Would $1.50 be enough as a tip?

Most definitely.

Christopher Sep 20, 2008 9:02 am


Originally Posted by mjcewl1284 (Post 10397138)
I make it a habit to draw lines through my amounts and put the $ right next to my total paid. Like '$40' not '$ 40.'

I usually go for even amounts like $48.00 and round up tips but instead of writing '$48.00,' I write '$48-------' (solid line to the end of the paper) so they cannot write anything else or change the 0 to an 8.

This works for me, no fradulent charges posted yet.

If one is really worried, one can always right the amount in words as well, even though there is no formal space for it to be written in — although to do that routinely would seem somewhat paranoid...

But like mcjewl, I usually tip an amount to give an even total amount. So, if say the bill was $48.25 and I wanted to tip roughly 15 per cent, I'd tip $6.75 or $7.75 to make the total $55.00 or $56.00, and I write in the amount of the tip. But in reality, this is probably not much of a safeguard, I guess...

essxjay Sep 20, 2008 1:40 pm


Originally Posted by Rebelyell (Post 10206154)
As for tipping in the United States, the rule is

... written in what playbook, and where can I download a copy? :)


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