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thegeneral Apr 30, 2008 12:13 pm

"Very annoying, especially as one is trying to fall asleep."

You can hear this through the ear plugs you have in?

PSUhorty Apr 30, 2008 1:33 pm


Originally Posted by thegeneral (Post 9657096)
"Very annoying, especially as one is trying to fall asleep."

You can hear this through the ear plugs you have in?

Perhaps I was unclear.
... Actually, in retrospect, I was perfectly clear and you simply can't see the trees through your forest of sniping.

Did I not say, "You can feel....?

ajnz May 1, 2008 7:59 am


Originally Posted by thegeneral (Post 9650895)
You shoulder juts into the aisle that the FA's announce has to be kept clear. Don't you think that those 25 people who bumped into you might be a tad pissed about the guy who's halfway into the aisle? You don't see dozens on posts on here with people complaining about this. Given that you're admittedly large enough to block the aisle, you might want to be more considerate of others and either buy two seats or get a business class fare.

Did you ever stop to think that if your shoulders are so big that they just out into the aisle that your left shoulder will, unless your body is magically non-symmetrical, take up the space of the person in the middle seat. Perhaps you can make a post on here complaining about how the person in the middle seat keeps hitting the arm you have in his or her space.

You're perfectly able to take responsibility for yourself here. It is your choices, not the actions of others, that are causing your own discomfort. You're also ignoring your duty to others to keep the aisles clear.

This is possibly the most patronising, ridiculous, assumption making, and point missing post I've ever read on FT. :td:

(FWIW to those who suggest taking a seat on the other side, I usually do. Keep in mind however that it's not always possible - not all airlines allow pre-seating (e.g. SQ or QF on domestic); and if you're flying last minute as I was in this case, you just may not have that option)

ajnz May 1, 2008 8:25 am


Originally Posted by PSUhorty (Post 9655914)
OP- Ya' know... you could always choose an aisle seat on the other side. Ummm, your sore sholder would be to the inside.

No offense, but I too find it hard to believe that simple bumping as FA's walk by would cause such a sore shoulder.

I think you may have confused the OP and myself. As I mentioned in the post above, it's not always possible to choose a seat that protects the shoulder - in this case, it wasn't.

Yes - I was surprised at just how much pain I was in when I arrived in SYD. It wasn't common, but also being hit that many times isn't common in most of the flights I've taken. I'm not THAT big and I spent a bit of time trying to figure out why I was always getting bumped on that particular flight.

On the SQ flight the next day I was bumped maybe three times... on a flight twice as long.

My shoulder aside, the point remains - FAs (and pax) who don't take care in the aisles are a problem, and clearly not just for one or two people.

Skyman65 May 1, 2008 2:24 pm

FA's whacking aisle passengers
 
It's not personal. Just business.

;)

thegeneral May 2, 2008 4:19 pm

"This is possibly the most patronising, ridiculous, assumption making, and point missing post I've ever read on FT."

I can't speak for what others find patronizing. That said, I do stand by my remarks especially when people are not only in the way of other passengers but also complaining about something they have control over. I tried making a post to show how someone spilling over into the aisle and the passengers next to them is not acceptable. According to the forum moderator, however, there are so many people who have complained about this that the thread was locked.

"Perhaps I was unclear.
... Actually, in retrospect, I was perfectly clear and you simply can't see the trees through your forest of sniping."

Let me be perfectly clear. You're complaining that the FA is walking too loud? You're trying to sleep in a space with people all around you who may be talking along with a large amount of air and engine noise and the FA's walking is so loud that you can't sleep? A simple $0.79 set of ear plugs would solve that problem. Of course, that would make taking responsibility for yourself.

Perhaps next time you could ask the FA and the passengers around you if they could walk softer because you are trying to sleep. It will at least give them a nice chuckle.

divemistressofthedark May 3, 2008 1:42 am

:rolleyes: Come on, man. Anyone who's been on FT long enough to have amassed 1500+ posts should know that part of the delicious joy of this place is .....ing about all the little first-world problems we amass while traveling. Or somewhere I missed the "all posts must be deadly serious and take into account all potential other points of view of others" requirement.

My own story is having had my left kneecap rammed into at about 15mph by a FA wielding a metal drink cart (AA, JFK-LHR run, which is torture all on its own ;)) I wound up limping and black and blue for a couple of days. I chose not to say anything...however, I unintentionally dropped a hard plastic case directly onto the FA's foot later in the flight, causing her to yelp slightly...I admit I didn't feel terribly guilty about it, even though it was an accident.

ajnz May 3, 2008 2:18 am


Originally Posted by thegeneral (Post 9668734)
I can't speak for what others find patronizing. That said, I do stand by my remarks especially when people are not only in the way of other passengers but also complaining about something they have control over. I tried making a post to show how someone spilling over into the aisle and the passengers next to them is not acceptable. According to the forum moderator, however, there are so many people who have complained about this that the thread was locked.

:rolleyes:

JudyS May 3, 2008 2:50 am


Originally Posted by MCOFlyer (Post 9652120)
....I swear that going down that aisle is like that game Operation where you have to avoid touching the sides.

I agree with this -- it's hard to avoid bumping into people, even if you're careful. The root problem is too many people in too small a space, but given the economics of air travel, I doubt it will get better any time soon.

redbeard911 May 3, 2008 1:18 pm


Originally Posted by ajnz (Post 9661203)
This is possibly the most patronising, ridiculous, assumption making, and point missing post I've ever read on FT. :td:

Doesn't even make my top ten. :p

pragakhan May 3, 2008 7:54 pm

Hmm - I can't figure out how to even walk down the isles in the first place with out bumping into someone - everyone sticks out in the aisle, it's not something rare..

If I walk straight, hit them with my hips, if I walk sideways, I am too afraid I'll hit them with my ... or worse....

The FAs glide so freely through it's a mystery to me trying to figure out how they do it.

dstan May 4, 2008 1:43 pm


Originally Posted by pragakhan (Post 9672694)
Hmm - I can't figure out how to even walk down the isles in the first place with out bumping into someone - everyone sticks out in the aisle, it's not something rare..

If I walk straight, hit them with my hips, if I walk sideways, I am too afraid I'll hit them with my ... or worse....

The FAs glide so freely through it's a mystery to me trying to figure out how they do it.

Having watched many FA's do it, I've taken to running my hand along the OHBs while walking down the aisle in flight. Not only does it give you an easy way to 'hop' around people that may be sticking out a bit, it's also a way to steady yourself in case of turbulence without resorting to 'seat-back-grabbing'.

sefrischling May 4, 2008 8:04 pm


Originally Posted by FlyingOnceMore (Post 9632979)
Probably misread the manifest and thought you were a DL Platinum :D


This explains my better NW service since I switched from DL-Plat to AF-Gold!

I knew the FA's seemed nicer (we'll see how they do in a few hours on my AMS-BDL flight this afternoon)

blue47 May 5, 2008 2:38 pm

I flew JAL connecting with NWA, and the contrast in FA interaction was huge. However, I would use the word "polite" describing the JAL FA and "friendly" describing the NWA FA. I suppose these are cultural differences, and I can be happy with either depending on mood.

Aisle seats have some advantages, but I am a window guy. Passengers getting on with backpacks or large shoulder bags can and do inflict pretty good blows. I hold up my hands and push back. Also, the aisle seat is more often used to launch the sitting passenger by aisle travelers and occupants getting up in the seat(s) behind. Grab the seat back, pull it back, and let go to launch. Finally, there is the spritz bath when the FA parks the drink cart next to me and opens sodas for 3 rows of passengers.

Oh well. Maybe someday the airlines will find a way to create comfort in steerage at prices I can afford. All of these complaints could be solved if they wanted to. No genius required.

ttlax May 5, 2008 2:55 pm


Originally Posted by pragakhan (Post 9672694)

The FAs glide so freely through it's a mystery to me trying to figure out how they do it.

hence the op...they whack people a lot!


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