Is this the Pope's flight?
Apr 20, 2008 | 10:13 pm
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Is this the Pope's flight?
Apr 20, 2008 | 10:32 pm
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Interesting flight -- just 2 booking classes and almost-empty seat maps:
[KVS Availability Tool 3.1.0/Platinum - Apollo: ITN/US-ARL]
[KVS Availability Tool 3.1.0/Platinum - Amadeus Seat Map: 20 Apr 2008/AZ 4001/JFK-CIA/772/J]
[KVS Availability Tool 3.1.0/Platinum - Amadeus Seat Map: 20 Apr 2008/AZ 4001/JFK-CIA/772/Y]
[KVS Availability Tool 3.1.0/Platinum - Apollo: ITN/US-ARL]
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JFK New York John F Kennedy Int'l NY US [KJFK] CIA Rome Ciampino IT [LIRA] SUN 20 Apr 2008 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Availability --------- ------ ---- --------- ---- --------- ---- ---- ------------- AZ 609 JFK 16:05 FCO 06:15 +1 0 PAST SCHEDULE AZ 643 EWR 17:40 FCO 08:00 +1 0 PAST SCHEDULE AZ 4001 JFK 20:30 CIA 10:45 +1 772 0 J0 Y0 AZ 611 JFK 21:05 FCO 11:30 +1 0 PAST SCHEDULE
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A C | D H | J L 1 + + + + + + 2 + - + + - + 3 + + + + + + 4 + + + + + + 9 - - + + + - 10 + - + + - + 11 + + + + + + [+] Available [-] Unavailable [W] Wing [E] Exit Row
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A B C | D E G | J K L 14 + + - 15 - - - + + + - - - 16 + + - - + - - + + 18 + + - - + - - + + 19 + + + + + + + + + 20 + + + + + + + + + 21 + + + + + + + + + 22 + + + + + + + + + 23 + + + + + + + + + 24 + + + + + + + + + 25 + + + + + + + + + 26 + + + + + + + + + 27 + + - - + - - + + 28 + + - - + - - + + 29 + + + + + + + + + 30 + + + 31 - - - - - - E 32 + + + - + + + + + 33 + + - - + - - + + 34 + + - - + - - + + 35 + + + + + + + + + 36 + + + + + + + + + 37 + + + + + + + + + 38 + + + + + + + + + 39 + + + + + + + + + 40 + + + + + + + + + 41 + + + + + + + + + 42 + + + + + + + + + 43 + + + + + + + + + 44 + + + [+] Available [-] Unavailable [W] Wing [E] Exit Row
Apr 21, 2008 | 2:04 am
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I wonder if also the flight the pope took to the US appeared as a scheduled flight. It landed at some military base outside of DC, though. Do military bases have airport codes?
Apr 21, 2008 | 2:18 am
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Apr 21, 2008 | 9:57 am
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I was also under the impression that the pope always flies on the national airline (or equivalent) of the country from which he's departing.
Apr 21, 2008 | 9:59 am
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Apr 21, 2008 | 10:17 am
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Besides which, I don't think anyone would have the gall to shut down AZ while the Pope is flying. Even if it's not your faith, there are certain things which shouldn't be done if for no other reason than the risk for Eternal Bad Karma!
Apr 21, 2008 | 2:14 pm
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Maybe he has been reading up on FT and decided to stick with one alliance for both legs of the journey...although if thats the case, he'd be going back JFK-ATL-MIA-MXP-AMS-PRG-CIA not direct to maximize mileage
Apr 21, 2008 | 5:49 pm
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It indeed is usually the case. This press release will explain it all
Maybe he has been reading up on FT and decided to stick with one alliance for both legs of the journey...although if thats the case, he'd be going back JFK-ATL-MIA-MXP-AMS-PRG-CIA not direct to maximize mileage
Maybe he has been reading up on FT and decided to stick with one alliance for both legs of the journey...although if thats the case, he'd be going back JFK-ATL-MIA-MXP-AMS-PRG-CIA not direct to maximize mileage
By the way, the press release doesnt explain anything ! It's just usual PR bla bla
Apr 21, 2008 | 6:40 pm
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I thought it stated quite a lot. Being an Italian by Act of State I am proud of the National Airline. American Airlines are in and out of bankruptcy as often as the Papal Tours.
Apr 21, 2008 | 6:42 pm
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Apparently no airline in the US was willing to fly the Pope back to Rome.
The rumour for his trip to Sydney for World Youth Day is a non-stop flight Rome to Sydney, which at 10,155nm will be something like the very first 747-400 flight of QF from LHR to SYD with only a few people on board.
I had heard QF will be providing both legs for that journey. The return journey will be interesting because of the prevailing winds, though the jetstream should be fairly to the north (in the northern hemisphere) at that time of year.
I very much doubt that CIA will be the departing airport as the runway there would not be long enough for a fully fuel laden widebody, so my bet would be FCO. I'm assuming that QF will use a 747-400ER which has the longest legs in the QF fleet.
The rumour for his trip to Sydney for World Youth Day is a non-stop flight Rome to Sydney, which at 10,155nm will be something like the very first 747-400 flight of QF from LHR to SYD with only a few people on board.
I had heard QF will be providing both legs for that journey. The return journey will be interesting because of the prevailing winds, though the jetstream should be fairly to the north (in the northern hemisphere) at that time of year.
I very much doubt that CIA will be the departing airport as the runway there would not be long enough for a fully fuel laden widebody, so my bet would be FCO. I'm assuming that QF will use a 747-400ER which has the longest legs in the QF fleet.
Apr 21, 2008 | 7:23 pm
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Not to get OT, but American Airlines is the only legacy carrier in the US that's never filed for bankruptcy. Now, if you're actually referring to airlines in America, as opposed to American Airlines, that's a different story.