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nigelloring Mar 23, 2008 7:39 pm

Semantics: "VDB"
 
Does the phrase "Voluntarily Denied Boarding" make sense?

"Denied" implies that you requested to board, then were refused. But in reality you never asked to board the plane; in fact, you agreed not to.

Similarly, is the phrase "IDB" / "Involuntarily Denied Boarding" a tautology?

Jaimito Cartero Mar 23, 2008 7:41 pm

Sure it makes sense. You volunteered to not go. IDB is you did NOT voluneer. ;)

nigelloring Mar 23, 2008 7:55 pm


Originally Posted by Jaimito Cartero (Post 9453929)
Sure it makes sense. You volunteered to not go. IDB is you did NOT voluneer. ;)

Right, you volunteered not to go. So at what point were you denied boarding?

bhmlurker Mar 23, 2008 8:18 pm

My guess is that after IDB came into existence, the concept of VDB came into use, and the phrase wasn't fixed grammatically for consistency, i.e. the voluntary version of DB.

Bobster Mar 23, 2008 10:03 pm

The terminology is consistent with that used in the U.S. Code.

PART 250--OVERSALES--Table of Contents
Sec. 250.2b Carriers to request volunteers for denied boarding.


It has to be called denied boarding because they sold confirmed space to more passengers than they had seats for. Voluntary or involuntary refers to the selection process of how they chose exactly which people get denied.


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