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YoungFlyer251 Feb 17, 2008 5:12 pm

Inter-Continent Travel Question
 
Which continent pairs have no non-stop flights between them (not including Antarctica)?

For example, I think there are no non-stop flights between Australia and Europe.

Others?

Kiwi Flyer Feb 17, 2008 5:30 pm

Also Australia and South America (both AR and LA fly via NZ), Asia and South America (flights are via North America, Europe or Africa).

Kagehitokiri Feb 17, 2008 5:35 pm

wouldn't Asia technically include DXB (EK to GRU) ?

that would leave AU without nonstops to EU and South America

graraps Feb 17, 2008 5:44 pm

Problem with above posts being, of course, that Australia is not a continent. Oceania is a continent, and it includes both Australia and New Zealand.

WRT Asia- S. America, you can also fly IR to CCS if you're feeling adventurous.
And you've also got the AM flights from/to TIJ, though that's probably not considered South America.

Kagehitokiri Feb 17, 2008 5:49 pm

it appears Australia/Oceania/Australasia usage varies by region..

http://www.britannica.com/ebc/article-9361501
http://atlas.nrcan.gc.ca/site/englis...map_image_view

KenJohn Feb 17, 2008 6:15 pm

I have always been taught that a continent was one land mass. How can anyone consider Oceania as a continent, I cannot understand. Oceania as a region makes sense.

Maybe my education has been very traditional; and by that I mean I learnt it some time ago. Mind you I was taught that Pluto was a planet, a fact that was correct until last year

civicmon Feb 17, 2008 6:45 pm


Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri (Post 9267690)
wouldn't Asia technically include DXB (EK to GRU) ?

that would leave AU without nonstops to EU and South America

That's correct if you define "Asia" as incl. the Middle East.

If you think of Asia as the pacific coastal countries, then the statement isn't correct.

I say you, Kagehitokiri, are correct.

Also I do not consider Mexico/TIJ South America... Central Amer, perhaps, but even then geographers consider Panama and points north as "North America." Central/Latin Amer is more to distinguish the US/Can (or the English speaking countries) vs. the Spanish speaking ones with Belize being the huge exception there.

civicmon Feb 17, 2008 6:47 pm


Originally Posted by KenJohn (Post 9267820)
I have always been taught that a continent was one land mass. How can anyone consider Oceania as a continent, I cannot understand. Oceania as a region makes sense.

Maybe my education has been very traditional; and by that I mean I learnt it some time ago. Mind you I was taught that Pluto was a planet, a fact that was correct until last year

A lot of it depends on where you're from. I've heard people from Eastern Europe and South America (I may be wrong on that however) are taught that there's only "America" and "Asia" and no "South Amer" and "Oceania/Australia" as a continent.

FWIW, Pluto was de-planetized (if there's even a word for such a scenario) recently by the major astronomers associations so you are correct with that part.

UAL Traveler Feb 17, 2008 6:48 pm


Originally Posted by KenJohn (Post 9267820)
I have always been taught that a continent was one land mass.

That's how I learned it as well. Except, I still have problems parsing the Eurasian land mass into two separate continents.

Rejuvenated Feb 17, 2008 7:29 pm


Originally Posted by Kiwi Flyer (Post 9267674)
Also Australia and South America (both AR and LA fly via NZ), Asia and South America (flights are via North America, Europe or Africa).

Even though I reside part time in NZ, I'm still not sure which continent NZ is classified in or is it a continent of it's own. If the latter then there are no nonstop flights between New Zealand and Africa.

Rejuvenated Feb 17, 2008 7:31 pm


Originally Posted by UAL Traveler (Post 9267947)
Except, I still have problems parsing the Eurasian land mass into two separate continents.

Would Russia be one that is Eurasian since parts of it belong in Europe and the other parts being in Asia?

UAL Traveler Feb 17, 2008 7:44 pm


Originally Posted by Rejuvenated (Post 9268140)
Would Russia be one that is Eurasian since parts of it belong in Europe and the other parts being in Asia?

Excellent example. That's why I've come to view the list of continents as nothing but convention (at best), since there seems to be no objective definition.

graraps Feb 17, 2008 8:02 pm


Originally Posted by UAL Traveler (Post 9268200)
Excellent example. That's why I've come to view the list of continents as nothing but convention (at best), since there seems to be no objective definition.

To all intents and purposes, Russia IS Eurasian. It even has a monument on the border!

Europe is separated from Asia at the Ural mountains, and at the straits of Bosporus.

Obviously this is all matter of convention, but there is some sort of consensus/logic to it.

Bobster Feb 17, 2008 8:30 pm

The problem with South America to Australia/Oceania isn't the distance. It's Antartica. It's too far to fly without a place to divert in case of emergency, and airline flights over Antartica are banned by international treaty.

Correction: There are flights from EZE-AKL so that takes care of the South America nonstop to Oceania connection.

szg Feb 18, 2008 2:18 am


Originally Posted by Bobster (Post 9268373)
The problem with South America to Australia/Oceania isn't the distance. It's Antartica. It's too far to fly without a place to divert in case of emergency, and airline flights over Antartica are banned by international treaty.

Correction: There are flights from EZE-AKL so that takes care of the South America nonstop to Oceania connection.

Thatīs why SFJ on Greenland exists for America-Europe flights.


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