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SURGEADDICT Oct 26, 2007 2:55 pm

Best/worst first class
 
who has the best./worst first class?

SURGEADDICT Oct 26, 2007 3:00 pm

i think best is japan airlines and united, worst not sure

gosha83 Oct 26, 2007 3:16 pm

i'm sure this has been discussed a ton, but i'd say virgin and singapore are up there in regards to first class and something like a Cubana is not.

kkjay77 Oct 26, 2007 3:18 pm

For International Long Haul:
UA 767 F must be the worst among American Carriers.

New SQ Suites Class must be the best, but as SQ claims Singapore Airlines Suites Class a class beyond first, I'm not sure if it qualifies. Among regular F, I like NH F. I've also heard that EK F suite is quite nice too.

kkjay77 Oct 26, 2007 3:19 pm


Originally Posted by gosha83 (Post 8626530)
i'm sure this has been discussed a ton, but i'd say virgin and singapore are up there in regards to first class and something like a Cubana is not.

VS (Virgin Atlantic) does not offer F service. ;)

ralfp Oct 26, 2007 3:24 pm


Originally Posted by kkjay77 (Post 8626541)
as SQ claims Singapore Airlines Suites Class a class beyond first, I'm not sure if it qualifies.

Zeroth class?

Naught class?

Classless? :D

Donut13 Oct 26, 2007 3:32 pm

Best>>>>CATHAY PACIFIC
Worst>>>>How can first be bad you are in FIRST

Fraser Oct 26, 2007 5:27 pm


Originally Posted by SURGEADDICT (Post 8626399)
i think best is japan airlines and united, worst not sure

:D^ Good one!

nyc123zoe55 Oct 27, 2007 2:10 am

Best South African Airlines
Worst Airtran I would not even call it first class

supermasterphil Oct 27, 2007 2:28 am

First of all, somebody has to decide if you call it a First Class if an airline just has just two service classes. I would consider their First Class as Business Class.

htb Oct 27, 2007 2:51 am


Originally Posted by supermasterphil (Post 8628840)
First of all, somebody has to decide if you call it a First Class if an airline just has just two service classes. I would consider their First Class as Business Class.

So with only one class on board it would be economy? :D

HTB.

mjcewl1284 Oct 27, 2007 3:04 am

CX F from JFK-HKG nonstop is probably the best first class product in the air right now (Keep in mind I have not flown SQ since 2000)

The worst? It's hard to say. With a lot of international routes being 2 class now, there could a be a bundle of choices. I flew MU first once and that was pretty lame, like an business class seat with economy service.

stut Oct 27, 2007 3:49 am

SQ is far above anything else I've experienced, not just in the hard product, but in the consummate professionalism of the crew.

I know that US domestic is a different product altogether, but the experience I had in an AA 757 sullies the good name of "First Class".

Unimatrix One Oct 27, 2007 4:54 am


Originally Posted by nyc123zoe55 (Post 8628803)
Best South African Airlines
Worst Airtran I would not even call it first class

Airtran doesn't call it first class, they call it "business class," so it's not supposed to be as good as other airlines' first class. But basically the only difference from other airlines' first class is the lack of hot food. For the price, it is a very good value for money.

My vote for worst domestic first class goes to Delta. I flew Orlando-JFK, 2.5 hours in the early morning and no meal. Just junk food snacks from a basket and drinks served in plastic cups.

supermasterphil Oct 27, 2007 5:41 am


Originally Posted by htb (Post 8628882)
So with only one class on board it would be economy? :D

HTB.

Exactly :D Just watch those Privat Air Flights out of MUC and DUS ;)

jul89 Oct 27, 2007 5:59 am

For first class I don't know, but for business it's Olympic: an economy class service and meal...And old seats and IFE of course...

Athena53 Oct 27, 2007 7:54 am


Originally Posted by Unimatrix One (Post 8629037)
My vote for worst domestic first class goes to Delta. I flew Orlando-JFK, 2.5 hours in the early morning and no meal. Just junk food snacks from a basket and drinks served in plastic cups.

American's got that beat. I flew from Tucson to DFW leaving at 1:20 PM, arriving 2 hours 10 minutes later. I think we may have gotten those little bags of "snack mix" along with drink service. It almost made me regret redeeming the upgrade certs.

mjcewl1284 Oct 27, 2007 11:59 pm


Originally Posted by Unimatrix One (Post 8629037)

My vote for worst domestic first class goes to Delta. I flew Orlando-JFK, 2.5 hours in the early morning and no meal. Just junk food snacks from a basket and drinks served in plastic cups.

The thought of using plastic cups and plasticware (obv exclusive of right after 9/11) in first/business class is incomprehensible to me. But I guess when everyones trying to save a buck or two, anything can happen.

7free Oct 28, 2007 12:17 am

For the best I think NH, SQ, and CX.
For the worst I would say United :rolleyes:

hockeyguy Oct 28, 2007 12:56 am


Originally Posted by kkjay77 (Post 8626541)
For International Long Haul:
UA 767 F must be the worst among American Carriers.

Thank God they've finally realized this and are doing something about it. Too bad it will be a year or more before they retire all the ridiculous excuses for an F seat in their 767's.

robb Oct 28, 2007 4:05 am

Swiss First has been the best I've flown. I was so let down by Singapore Business that I can't imagine their First is that much better. :(

The worst First I've flown has been Thai. (Well, there was Indian airlines, but I count the flight as essentially a domestic flight, so it's not fair to compare).

graraps Oct 28, 2007 4:47 am


Originally Posted by mjcewl1284 (Post 8632763)
The thought of using plastic cups and plasticware (obv exclusive of right after 9/11) in first/business class is incomprehensible to me. But I guess when everyones trying to save a buck or two, anything can happen.

For some reason, my usual airline (OK) serves business class pre-departure drinks in plastic cups. I've enquired and they said it has to do with some sort of safety law. I still can't understand what it's about, as they do collect the cups before take-off (and it's not cost cutting because in-flight they use proper glass ones including china mugs for tea). Guess it's a rule dreamt up by some stupid bureaucrat at the Czech Civil Aviation Authority or whatever it's called.

robb Oct 28, 2007 4:53 am

The most restrictions occur on the ground as that is where you might have to evacuate with no notice.

Therefore, they need plastic cups while taxiing because they don't want to worry about broken glass hindering an evacuation.

At 30,000 feet, glass is fine, because either:

a) you'll have time to stow things in preparation for an emergency landing.
or
b) Ummm, in the case of b, let's just say that it really doesn't so much matter about the broken glass.

mjcewl1284 Oct 28, 2007 7:27 am


Originally Posted by graraps (Post 8633184)
For some reason, my usual airline (OK) serves business class pre-departure drinks in plastic cups. I've enquired and they said it has to do with some sort of safety law. I still can't understand what it's about, as they do collect the cups before take-off (and it's not cost cutting because in-flight they use proper glass ones including china mugs for tea). Guess it's a rule dreamt up by some stupid bureaucrat at the Czech Civil Aviation Authority or whatever it's called.

I should've included somewhat of a disclaimer on regular beverage service/food service and not service pre-departure. I've flown NW long enough and in F long enough to know that pre-departure beverages are served in plastic cups.

laf747 Oct 28, 2007 11:56 am

The best is CX on its JFK-HKG route and EK on its JFK-DXB run. Honorary mention BA for the JFK-LHR route.

kkjay77 Oct 30, 2007 9:52 am


Originally Posted by laf747 (Post 8634318)
The best is CX on its JFK-HKG route and EK on its JFK-DXB run. Honorary mention BA for the JFK-LHR route.

Over SQ Suites on SIN-SYD route? :D
I think it's the closest thing to private jet on commercial airliner.
And it looks like CX new C isn't well received by a lot of frequent flyers. CX's New F, however, looks better than SQ's new F (on 77W).

Wombelero Oct 30, 2007 10:09 am


Originally Posted by robb (Post 8633123)
Swiss First has been the best I've flown. I was so let down by Singapore Business that I can't imagine their First is that much better. :(

The worst First I've flown has been Thai. (Well, there was Indian airlines, but I count the flight as essentially a domestic flight, so it's not fair to compare).

I absolutely agree! I was so let down with the Thai products in First and Business that I will avoid that airline by any means possible.

I just had the opportunity to fly Swiss First thanks to voucher upgrade and was amazed. This was so nice, expect for the fact the you have the same (small) monitor then in C. But with that special "mattress", the nice linen and pillow I was able to sleep very comfortable and arrived relaxed. Food, Service, pre board treatment etc just great. Any time again.....
W

Cheetah_SA Oct 30, 2007 1:10 pm


Originally Posted by nyc123zoe55 (Post 8628803)
Best South African Airlines

South African Airways, perhaps? ;)

On a good day I might agree. But, sadly, we will never be able to put their product to the test again: as of this month they will stop flying the 747 and hence will no longer offer F. :(


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