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Analise Jun 12, 2006 1:55 pm


Originally Posted by MeNoSay
Here's a legitimate question for you:

You think littering is wrong and disgusting and that people who do so deserve to be confronted.

No, if you read my words you will see that I said the following:


Originally Posted by Analise
Anyone who thinks that he can litter anywhere he wants would clearly have the limited intellect to come up with a response like that.

I find confronting those with such limited intellects to be a waste of anyone's time but if someone wants to do confront them, who am I to stop that person.


There are many places in the world where littering is custom. Many beaches in the Caribbean, many places in Southern Europe, etc. etc.
Who said littering was purely a disregard practiced on American soil?

DavidHatt Jun 12, 2006 1:59 pm

To the OP,

Congratulations. Your comment may not have made any immediate positive reaction, but one hopes that he won't leave his litter behind in future places.

and to.....


Originally Posted by tkey75
Answers to the OP's questions:

....
In the porno booth - "Get this, freak, I'm gonna chop that thing off if you don't get it out of there!"

Spoil sport! :D

And since other people brought it up.... it is annoying when people use seats to store their luggage when there's all these people standing around. Sometimes, I will ask if I can sit there and they will sheepishly move their luggage.

I am slow to anger but when I do..... I was in line at the grocery store when this woman took an inordinate amount time with the cashier and doing this and doing that. (You'd think that if you were in line you would have your method of payment readily available. But nooooo....) This woman *finally* leaves.

I pay for groceries and leave.... well it turns out that she's parked beside me. And guess where she puts her emptied grocery cart? Right behind my car. That is really inconsiderate. I notice that she's in her car on the cell phone. Being inconsiderate gets me from zero to bit.... in six seconds. First it was taking up time in line and now the cart.... ooohhhh I was angry.

So, I put the grocery cart behind her car! (She couldn't see the cart because she was driving an SUV.) I take off. Within 10 seconds of me leaving I hear her smash in to the grocery cart!

Turn about it is fair play. And I bet that's the last time she leaves a grocery cart behind anyone's car!

David

drbond Jun 12, 2006 2:23 pm


Originally Posted by DavidHatt
To the OP,

Congratulations. Your comment may not have made any immediate positive reaction, but one hopes that he won't leave his litter behind in future places.

and to.....



Spoil sport! :D

And since other people brought it up.... it is annoying when people use seats to store their luggage when there's all these people standing around. Sometimes, I will ask if I can sit there and they will sheepishly move their luggage.

I am slow to anger but when I do..... I was in line at the grocery store when this woman took an inordinate amount time with the cashier and doing this and doing that. (You'd think that if you were in line you would have your method of payment readily available. But nooooo....) This woman *finally* leaves.

I pay for groceries and leave.... well it turns out that she's parked beside me. And guess where she puts her emptied grocery cart? Right behind my car. That is really inconsiderate. I notice that she's in her car on the cell phone. Being inconsiderate gets me from zero to bit.... in six seconds. First it was taking up time in line and now the cart.... ooohhhh I was angry.

So, I put the grocery cart behind her car! (She couldn't see the cart because she was driving an SUV.) I take off. Within 10 seconds of me leaving I hear her smash in to the grocery cart!

Turn about it is fair play. And I bet that's the last time she leaves a grocery cart behind anyone's car!

David

Good for you! I would have probably gotten her off that phone.

drbond Jun 12, 2006 2:24 pm

Great Going!!!

Do it more often and while you are at it. Tell those stupid inconsiderate parents of infants to take that child to the lavatory to change that diaper!!!

J-M Jun 12, 2006 3:25 pm


Originally Posted by MeNoSay
Anyone who goes around telling strangers what to do would clearly not be unfamiliar with a response like that.

HA! :D ^


Originally Posted by tom911
People can go into a rage over senseless things. A lot of people around here travel with guns, and I've worked a number of nights where gunfire has been exchanged between vehicles. I'm not sure I'd confront someone on the street about littering. It's quite different in a secure area of an airport where people have been screened for weapons.

Not to mention that the act of following someone from the road into a gas station and then getting out and confronting them is road rage in and of itself. Of course I wouldn't blame the person being confronted if they did get their gun at the ready. You never know what the confronter is mad about, or what they plan to do about it.

mpattdu Jun 12, 2006 4:15 pm


Originally Posted by MeNoSay
Here's a legitimate question for you:

You think littering is wrong and disgusting and that people who do so deserve to be confronted.

You also enjoy going to foreign countries and, contrary to local custom, pass out money to service industry workers as you see fit.

There are many places in the world where littering is custom. Many beaches in the Caribbean, many places in Southern Europe, etc. etc.

Is it fair to assume that you would not have a problem with people from those countries -- a Greek, for example -- coming to the United States and throwing their trash where they please?

It's every traveller's responsibility to abide by the customs/laws/norms of the society he or she is visiting. That said, I really don't see how you can assume that someone who would confront a person about breaking a norm here (not littering) would knowingly break a norm in a different country? Why do you make that assumption?

Regarding your Greek example, wouldn't you think that a civil person, not accostomed to a society's norms, would want to be told if his actions were breaking those norms?

MeNoSay Jun 12, 2006 4:59 pm


Originally Posted by mpattdu
That said, I really don't see how you can assume that someone who would confront a person about breaking a norm here (not littering) would knowingly break a norm in a different country? Why do you make that assumption?

She said so in another thread in this forum within the last week.

Sancha Jun 12, 2006 6:45 pm


Originally Posted by drbond
Great Going!!!

Do it more often and while you are at it. Tell those stupid inconsiderate parents of infants to take that child to the lavatory to change that diaper!!!

Hear hear! And dispose of the uesd diaper properly.
I was at the Grand Canyon this weekend, and someone had tossed one just under a treee in the middle of the scenic sidewalk/trail. Nevermind that the trash can was just a few steps away. :mad: Believe me, if I'd seen the perpetrator, I woulda said something!

gilkman Jun 12, 2006 7:50 pm

How about this? I am on the aisle seat; we're on approach, and the dude across the aisle is clipping his finger nails and dropping them on the floor! In addition to that annoying "Clip! Clip!", he's flicking the nails all around. Gross! I jammed my Shure E2C's into my ears and turned on my MP3 player; to hell with the "electronic devices" rule in this case...I should have said something but didn't.

MileageAddict Jun 12, 2006 8:02 pm

I was walking the grounds of the Iao Needle State Park in Hawaii many years ago when a HUGE Hawaiian dude walking in front of me tossed something on the ground. As I was in awe of the natural beauty of this place, the witnessing of litter irked me immediately.

I told him he should pick up his trash and put it in a trashcan not 50 feet away. He looked at me menacingly but before he could tell me off, his petite little girlfriend/wife started yelling at him and calling him a jerk for littering.

Sheepishly, he listened to his woman and grumbled quietly at me as I walked past him. :D

CarlTheWebmaster Jun 12, 2006 8:56 pm

1. The guy wasn't all that threatening looking.
2. I don't feed forum trolls.

Thanks to all for your interesting responses!!!

-C

Edit: typo.

MeNoSay Jun 12, 2006 9:44 pm


Originally Posted by MileageAddict
I was walking the grounds of the Iao Needle State Park in Hawaii many years ago when a HUGE Hawaiian dude walking in front of me tossed something on the ground. As I was in awe of the natural beauty of this place, the witnessing of litter irked me immediately.

I told him he should pick up his trash and put it in a trashcan not 50 feet away. He looked at me menacingly but before he could tell me off, his petite little girlfriend/wife started yelling at him and calling him a jerk for littering.

Sheepishly, he listened to his woman and grumbled quietly at me as I walked past him. :D


god bless a country where corporate and military interests can take over a sovereign nation, and whose citizens then feel empowered to lecture the people that lived there hundreds of years prior on their personal habits.

MileageAddict Jun 12, 2006 9:49 pm

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MeNoSay Jun 13, 2006 8:41 am

I'm a troll because I answered your question in the negative?

I just don't think it makes for a good society if we constantly run around telling each other what we don't like about them.

This litter debate is particularly amusing, because it's not a debate about producing litter, which is the real problem, but merely an aesthetic issue for those involved. In most cases, the bougies that complain about litter the loudest also produce the most waste that get buried under a few inches of dirt. Out of sight, out of mind, right?

And yes, I do find it amusing that someone can so succinctly expose what colonial imperialism is all about -- taking over sovereign territory and then telling the restless natives that they need to shape up.

JTG Jun 13, 2006 9:18 am

Interesting. In a thread about today's thoughtless "ME" society, a staunch supporter of the "I'll do whatever I want to do" posts under the moniker MEnosay. Then again, maybe you just don't know . . .

Kudos to the OP.


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