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Spiff Mar 27, 2006 10:32 am


Originally Posted by SamZeb
"no cell phones while you're on the ramp, it's a security hazard." and then began to raise her voice and yell "now. turn it off NOW."

"Really? What is the FAR you're citing?"

Making up false security directives should be grounds for immediate termination.

Viking547 Mar 27, 2006 10:39 am


Originally Posted by meducate
There have been reports of explosions at gas stations when people using their cell phones are fueling their personal vehicles. Something about a static charge igniting the combustible fuel.

http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/gasvapor.asp

:) False!

Viking547 Mar 27, 2006 10:40 am


Originally Posted by Spiff
"Really? What is the FAR you're citing?"

Making up false security directives should be grounds for immediate termination.

That's what I should've said!!!

meducate Mar 27, 2006 10:47 am


Originally Posted by SamZeb

Thanks...

rw55 Mar 27, 2006 10:58 am


Originally Posted by meducate
There have been reports of explosions at gas stations when people using their cell phones are fueling their personal vehicles. Something about a static charge igniting the combustible fuel.

This is urban legend. See Snopes article.

Cell phones don't cause static charge. Static charge does cause fires, as the article points out, and cell phones are sometimes blamed instead.

However, this could be the explanation for the behavior mentioned in the OP, if the GA or whoever believed that it was true.

Sorry, too slow on the "submit" sorry for the dupe pointer. :)

cblaisd Mar 27, 2006 11:05 am

Given the op's thread-topic and the direction thread has gone, am moving to Travel Buzz.

cblaisd
Moderator, United

Viking547 Mar 27, 2006 11:10 am

Sorry - thought UA would be a good place as it was a UA GA or ground agent who gave me the information...didn't know if it was an 'airline' policy or not.

Cheers~

cblaisd Mar 27, 2006 11:23 am

No need to be sorry. The discussion took on a wider life than just UA :)

herzmeh Mar 27, 2006 11:34 am


Originally Posted by rw55
There's an urban legend that refueling your car with your cell phone on can cause an explosion. Studies have actually never shown it to occur. See Snopes if you want to see the legend.

I assume that's the source of the question.

Makes me wonder how come they made us walk away for ~200 yards so we could use cell phones when I was on a ship and we were doing ammo onload...

Spiff Mar 27, 2006 11:39 am


Originally Posted by herzmeh
Makes me wonder how come they made us walk away for ~200 yards so we could use cell phones when I was on a ship and we were doing ammo onload...

Was your ammo capable of being detonated by radio waves?

flyinryan Mar 27, 2006 12:31 pm

Yes, the Navy has had accidents with this sort of thing over the years, and has evolved a protocol known as HERO - Hazards of Electromagnetic Radiation to Ordnance. Certain transmitters must be off aboard ship while ammo is being moved, loaded, etc.

Viking547 Mar 27, 2006 12:35 pm

Wow that's crazy. Never knew that.

Remind me to stay away with my cell phone next time :)

Stefferdoos Mar 27, 2006 2:30 pm


Originally Posted by meducate
There have been reports of explosions at gas stations when people using their cell phones are fueling their personal vehicles. Something about a static charge igniting the combustible fuel.

Actually, they dispelled this particular legend on Mythbusters. The static charge didn't come from the cell phone. What was more possible and proven though is the static you produce from sitting on a cloth seat was more likely to cause it. Most people won't have this static when fuelling their car because they will grab the metal door and ground themselves and remove the static charge. It typically happens when someone goes back to sit in the car while its fuelling and then climbs out without grounding themselves before grabbing the pump handle.

sany2 Mar 27, 2006 3:05 pm


Originally Posted by flyinryan
Yes, the Navy has had accidents with this sort of thing over the years, and has evolved a protocol known as HERO - Hazards of Electromagnetic Radiation to Ordnance. Certain transmitters must be off aboard ship while ammo is being moved, loaded, etc.

Well obviously certain types of electromagnetic radiation can cause combustion (infrared can heat the ammo, for example, causing it to combust). I do not believe that cell phones would be powerful enough emitters of any radiation to cause such combustion.

iluv2fly Mar 27, 2006 3:11 pm


Originally Posted by lucky9876coins
Reminds me of when I was at LAX a few months ago. I was taking some pictres, as I always do, and one of those ladies who drives the golf cart for old people :D told me that photography is absolutely prohibited at all airports in the US, and that I should put my camera away immediately, or else I would get "in serious trouble." Needless to say, I continued taking pictures as I knew this lady was full of it. She drove by a bit later and gave me another speech, and I asked her since when this rule existed. She said that "my president" has had it ever since 9/11. Fun times!

Mr. Pillows would have just told her to say "cheese" and snap a picture of her. (I actually did that at ORD once to someone who told me the same exact thing. :D ^ )


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