Ads on overhead bins?
 

So whaddya think?
http://www.ironicsans.com/2006/03/id...n_the_ove.html

I'm OK with it if it's a Victorious Secretions ad with semi-nekkid wimmin. :D

Mustn't forget all that empty space on the back of the seat in front of you. Lower the tray table, get told to buy Nexium!

With all teh references to Southwest being a flying bus I can see ads on the overheads just like on a regular bus. Do me a favor and burn this thread before anyone at the airlines picks up on this. :D

As far as ads helping lower consumers prices, I doubt it. Movie theatres now spend 20 minutes showing you commercials before a movie and ticket prices are much higher than before they started this ugly practice.

I don't like it, but as a business person it makes sense.

Airlines need to offer different services (show / not show ads) and off people way to pay for them (see them / not see them).

I think we will see very aspect of the airline experience be dismantled, and then resold piece by piece. Specific seats, ads/no ads, number of carry on's, your weight will be based on dollars, not an everyone is equal as it is today.

Don't they do this already on Ryanair?

I'm neutral...with ads everywhere from buses to bathroom stall doors, I'm pretty much immune to them. On a plane, they'd just join the visual clutter and be lost on me.

I think that we will eventually see ads on overhead bins, seatbacks, tray tables, and in the lavs. If there is an empty space, it will be for sale. If they could get them to stay on, how about ads on the side of the planes like they have on buses?

It's just plain tacky.

-Vincent

I'm OK, as long as there aren't any ads for oversized luggage, with an adline such as, "XXXX Airline and your mondo luggage right here, a perfect match!"

Are you kidding? :mad: If UA starts doing this, I'm seriously going to write letters to both the advertiser and UA that I will expressly avoid purchasing I see advertised in this way. It's one thing to put them in the IFE, Hemispheres, etc., but overhead bins and tray tables? :mad: That's too far. :td: :td: :td: One of the aesthetically nice things about flying is the lack of clutter, the feeling that I'm getting away from all the crap down below. Sounds like some of you are okay with that crap at 35,000 feet.

If FTers don't say something about this loudly, it may become a reality very very soon. I vote a resounding :td: :td: :td: :td:

Agreed :td: :td: :td: :td:

Agreed, very tacky. Both: ads on overhead bins and OP's comments on VSecret models.

I don't think so yet. However you can have the entire exterior for your product :D

http://news.cheapflights.co.uk/fligh...ying_bill.html

Tacky? Sure. But would you expect more from Jet2 or any other LCC?

I would not mind if the airline was advertising for itself... or it credit card... or some promotion... but really do not want to see product placement for non-airline companies.

I don't think you need letters -- as long as people feel this way (as people seem to), it won't happen. Why would an advertiser pay money to display a product in a place that raises negative, not positive, feelings?

If it would lower the cost of my seat, and I'm flying coach - I'm all for it

Cheers

Does America West do this on tray tables?
 

The blog referred to this being done already on America West... anyone?... anyone?

Yes, they do.
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Ad agency (caution: noisy Flash page, mute your sound first)

Western Pacific did outside advertising on their planes.

Closest to bin advertising is probably Southwest's Shamu(R) jets. It's been a long time since I've flown one, but I think they have penguins or other sea life along the bins. No Sea World logos per se, though.

Do you do this now for other products that are advertised?

It may take some to get used to, but we are bombarded with advertising all day long.

Sit in the seats were you can pay to avoid these ads :)

Alaska Airlines had (and maybe still has) a plane that was decked out in Disney livery, which makes sense because they fly to Orange County and sell Disneyland vacation packages.

Air Deccan in India all ready does this. Its a LCC!

Yes. On overhead bin doors, seatbacks and tray tables. And they used to have several aircraft in the fleet with a complete advertising livery (Vodafone, Hertz, Jaguar Cars, Kilkenny Beer, etc) but that was on the old 737-200 fleet which have recently been retired.

My last trip on one of the 737-200s, possibly the last time ever in a JT8D engined aircraft so universal over the previous 40 years, was on the Hertz one.

You would think, but it seems to me that people have become so complacent about the proliferation of ads that most won't complain, and the bean counters will figure that the revenue gained outweighs the revenue lost.

When I first saw ads above urinals, I laughed; how clever.
When I first saw ads applied to the sidewalks of New York, I shook my head; clever, but that's public space being defaced.
When I first saw ads before movies, I got angry; I'm paying $10 to see this dreck and you're making me watch ads?!?

Now I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore!!! :mad: ;)

Agreed, it's hard to escape ads. But seriously, is it okay with you if cabin interiors become flying billboards? Why not on the back of the tray table in front of you? I'll tell you what, if an airline can show ads on tray tables is the difference between solvency and bankruptcy, then okay. But we both know it ain't. Ticket prices will not go down, service will not get better... Someone in WHQ will simply get more $$ for being so smart.

BTW, do you work for the airlines? The idea of selling ad space, then selling premium seats without ads is brilliant. I see a future for you in marketing... :rolleyes: ;)

Once we get used to the advertising it will not be as bad as we think. Remember when television networks started putting their logo in the corner of the screen. The logo was distracting and I was outraged that a portion of the screen was covered. Now, who cares. In fact it is easy to tell which channel I am watching.

How about advertising on the boards around a hockey rink. that was controversial when it started, now standard for the NHL. If I see a replay of an old game, the plain white boards just don't look right.

Are we headed back to the circa 1900 era when there were ads plastered everywhere? :( (look at some old photos of cities; they were all over any flat surface)

Something else interesting is that these ads of yore were often for "snake oil" (all sorts of medical remedies that did nothing). They were put out of business with the FDA. Today, what are a lot of ads for? Lifestyle enhancement drugs! :rolleyes:

Round and round we go....

Western Pacific used to do that. Here is a plane done up as a flying billboard for a credit union, and here is one advertising a TV show on Fox. (I gotta admit, using the tail of the 737 for Marge's hair is a nice effect.)

We live in a marketing intense world. Our consumer response to this via our spending habits justify the efforts companies make to stick their stuff in our faces every where we turn. I'm willing to bet money that most LCC's will have interior marketing/ads within the next 5 years. It is not a matter of IF, but WHEN. I am still chuckling over the fact that they have now physically altered the trunk (boot - UK) of many taxi's so that they can slap a big advertising piece on the back of the taxi's lift-up lid. What's next square taxi's so that every surface is advertising friendly? It is going to look like a circus-bus when all is said and done. Airplanes will follow suit, at least inside.

I can see the ad now:

Don't like ads on your Southwest flight? Remember, United never has ads...fly United.

Brilliant!

Nice first post, cascadejim! ^

Welcome to FlyerTalk :D

One ad bashing another ad ... what would really be funny is to see that ad on a tray table on a UA plane. :D

WHBM, apparently that Hertz 732 had an altitude restriction of FL190 because of all the patches on the fuselage! Another 732, EI-CJI had one of FL270 for similar reason. Looking at the photo of the Hertz I am not surprised!

Welcome to Flyertalk, cascadejim :)

thanks for the warm welcome. Long-time lurker, first time poster. :)

Fraser, that is an earlier photo than the time I went in it. I can assure you by the time I was on board it was worse ! They seemed to have ordered some special yellow-coloured Ripstop tape to go with the livery, especially noticeable on the fin when boarding through the rear door. Knowing MO'L he probably charged Hertz for having to buy it. The trip was Bristol to Dublin so no impact on journey time. Seemingly after the plane was retired it was going to be sold to Ozjet, the startup in Australia who were offering "premium" inter-city services, but they went out of business before it could be delivered.

By the way, I've flown light aircraft much worse, myself ! It's really not an issue.

It's all about the money!

Mark

I recently flew Jetstar (JQ) from Townsville to Sydney (TSV-SYD).They are an Aussie LCC. There were ads on the overhead bins and tray tables for Dominos Pizza. I really didn't think much of it at the time...didn't really bother me either. The ads were tastful (no pun intended) and on a velvelty surface. Me thinks we will see more of the same on our side of the pond.

Last time I flew Ryanair ex-UK, the sick bags doubled up as film development by post envelopes (presumably you were supposed to use them only for one of the two, though).

Travel free - with ads
 

Ryanair is offering free or basically free flights by charging for everything but the airfare, and putting ads everywhere on the plane.

http://money.cnn.com/magazines/busin...2814/index.htm

If anyone saw the movie from about 2 years ago SOUL PLANE, which was quite funny, about the first African-American owned airline, in their "lower class" section in the back, the overhead bins had ads on them for Colt 45 Malt Liquor.

Oh, and the overhead bins were lockers, with combination locks on them.